Lebron from 2016-2018

[Lebron23]

Put up better stats than 1996-1998 Michael Jordan in the NBA finals but he lost to a much better team than the teams Jordan face in the finals

[Full Court]

Most choke jobs of all time, BY FAR.





2007 game 1 against Detroit. 10 points on 33% shooting. LOSS.

Game 2 against Detroit. 19 points on 37% shooting. LOSS.

Game 1 against the Spurs. 14 points on 25% shooting. LOSS.

2008 game 1 against Boston. 12 points and 10 turnovers on 11% shooting. 0/6 from three. LOSS.

Game 2 against Boston. 21 points on 25% shooting. LOSS.

Game 3 against Boston. 21 points on 31% shooting.

Game 4 against Boston. 21 points on 35% shooting.

2009 game 3 against Orlando. He scored 41 points, but on absolutely horrendous efficiency. 39% shooting and 1/8 from three. LOSS. Someone should have made him stop shooting.

2010 game 5 against Boston. 15 points on 21% shooting!!! LOSS. The series was tied 2-2 until that game. That Lebron choke put the Cavs down 3-2, and they went on to lose the series.

2011 game 1 against Philadelphia. 21 points on 29% shooting.

Game 5 against Philadelphia. 16 points on 39% shooting.

Game 3 against Boston. 15 points on 38% shooting. LOSS.

Game 1 against Chicago. 15 points on 33% shooting. LOSS.

Finals against Dallas. Most epic choke job of all time. Game 3, 17 points.

Game 4, 8 points on 27% shooting. LOSS.

Game 5, 17 points. LOSS.

Game 6, 21 points and 6 turnovers. LOSS.

2013 game 2 against San Antonio. 17 points on 41% shooting. LOSS.

Game 3 against San Antonio, 15 points on 33% shooting. LOSS.

Game 5 against San Antonio, 25 points on 36% shooting. LOSS.

2014 game 5 against Indiana. 7 points on 20% shooting. Whooaaaaaaaa! LOSS.

2015 game 1 against Chicago. 19 points on 41% shooting. LOSS.

Game 6 against Chicago. 15 points on 30% shooting.

Game 4 against Golden State. 20 points on 32% shooting.

2016 game 3 against Detroit. 20 points on 33% shooting.

Game 2 against Golden State. 19 points on 42% shooting. LOSS.

2017 game 3 against Boston. 11 points on 31% shooting. LOSS.

2018 game 1 against Indiana. 24 points on 41% shooting. 0% from three. LOSS.

Game 1 against Boston. 15 points on 31% shooting. LOSS.

2020 game 2 against Portland. 10 points on 36% shooting.

Game 1 against Houston. 20 points. LOSS.

Game 4 against Houston. 16 points on 41% shooting.

Game 1 against Denver. 15 points.

2021 game 1 against Phoenix. 18 points on 46% shooting. LOSS.

Game 3 against Phoenix. 21 points and 7 turnovers on 47% shooting.

Game 6 against Phoenix. 29 points on 11/26 shooting. ELIMINATION.

2023 game 5 against Memphis. 15 points on 29% shooting. 1-9 from three. LOSS.

Game 1 against Golden State. 22 points on 38% shooting. 1-8 from three.

Game 2 against Denver. 22 points. 0-6 from three. LOSS.

Game 4 against Denver. Wasted multiple possessions in 4th quarter, missed key shots, and blew the game-tying shot in the last possession. SWEPT.

2024 game 1 against Denver. 0 points in the fourth quarter of a close game. Actually, he had two points, but that was from an uncontested layup in the final minute of the game after Denver had already closed the game out. LOSS

Game 2 against Denver. The game is tied and the Lakers have the final possession. Instead of running the clock down, Lebron clanks a low-IQ three point shot, leaving Denver with plenty of time for a final possession. Murray, who is way more clutch than Lebron, makes the buzzer beater. LOSS.

[Walk on Water]

Put up better stats than 1996-1998 Michael Jordan in the NBA finals but he lost to a much better team than the teams Jordan face in the finals

Really? His points were not higher and Jordan played defense. LeBron lost. He had Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love and many good role players during that time. Why couldn’t he get it done with all that help? How much help does he need? I thought he made players around him better.

[1987_Lakers]

2018 LeBron shits on any version of MJ from 96-98.

[Full Court]

2018 LeBron shits on any version of MJ from 96-98.

How many FMVPs did Jordan get from 96-98? How many did Lebron get from 16-18?


Nice try.


Most. Choke. Jobs. Of. All. Time.

[1987_Lakers]

How many FMVPs did Jordan get from 96-98? How many did Lebron get from 16-18?


Nice try.


Most. Choke. Jobs. Of. All. Time.

MJ with LeBron's cast in 2018 would have been knocked out of the playoffs in the 1st/2nd round.

And we all know MJ is not beating the 2017 Warriors in a 7 game series, not even the '96 Bulls.

[tpols]

MJ with LeBron's cast in 2018 would have been knocked out of the playoffs in the 1st/2nd round.

And we all know MJ is not beating the 2017 Warriors in a 7 game series, not even the '96 Bulls.

We really can't take your post seriously when you say prime MJ would lose to the oladipo Pacers. It invalidates the entire opinion.

[SouBeachTalents]

We really can't take your post seriously when you say prime MJ would lose to the oladipo Pacers. It invalidates the entire opinion.

You've said the current Lakers are equal to the KD Warriors and that Jason Kidd was better than LeBron, so you really shouldn't be talking about invalidated opinions

[tpols]

It's just delusional to say prime MJ would lose to the derozan Raptors or oladipo Pacers. Or honestly the rookie Tatum Celtics too.

The Cavs shooters in the East playoffs were on fire from deep in some of those runs. And still had an All Star talent in Kevin Love and an MVP talent in Lebron. They were not a weak offensive cast at all.

Lebron was amazing in the 2018 playoffs but the warriors swept him and won by the largest margin of victory in NBA Finals history.

Think about that. How could MJ do worse than being swept and blown out in record fashion?

[ArbitraryWater]

It's just delusional to say prime MJ would lose to the derozan Raptors or oladipo Pacers. Or honestly the rookie Tatum Celtics too.

The Cavs shooters in the East playoffs were on fire from deep in some of those runs. And still had an All Star talent in Kevin Love and an MVP talent in Lebron. They were not a weak offensive cast at all.

Lebron was amazing in the 2018 playoffs but the warriors swept him and won by the largest margin of victory in NBA Finals history.

Think about that. How could MJ do worse than being swept and blown out in record fashion?

Are you accounting for game 1 being tilted though? He clearly won that game.

He made the game sealing stop right here:

[ArbitraryWater]

It's just delusional to say prime MJ would lose to the derozan Raptors or oladipo Pacers. Or honestly the rookie Tatum Celtics too.

The Cavs shooters in the East playoffs were on fire from deep in some of those runs. And still had an All Star talent in Kevin Love and an MVP talent in Lebron. They were not a weak offensive cast at all.

Lebron was amazing in the 2018 playoffs but the warriors swept him and won by the largest margin of victory in NBA Finals history.

Think about that. How could MJ do worse than being swept and blown out in record fashion?

But anyway, probaby every singe payer woud have ost R1 to the Pacers, MJ incuded.

What Bron did with his useess team there was nothing short of incredibe.

No love against the Cetics in games 6-7 either, won it without anyone.

[Hey Yo]

Cavs were down 3-2 in the ECF. Love missed games 6 and 7 minus 5mins in gm6.

edit....didn't see Arby's post above

[SouBeachTalents]

Even if it's statistically correct that 2018 had the largest MOV, half of the games in that series came down to the final minute, that alone makes it more competitive than other Finals like 2004 & 2014 which even if they weren't sweeps, imo were more one sided series. I felt like the Cavs put up a better fight than the Lakers or Heat did in those series.

[tpols]

But anyway, probaby every singe payer woud have ost R1 to the Pacers, MJ incuded.

What Bron did with his useess team there was nothing short of incredibe.

No love against the Cetics in games 6-7 either, won it without anyone.

Dude... I don't think you understand who prime Michael Jordan was. It's not just nostalgia... he was an absolute monster. He could single handedly beat a teenage rookie Tatum and Jaylen Brown. No exaggeration. Prime veteran MJ would not lose to that.

Game 6 and 7 wouldn't have even existed in the 2018 ECFs because Jordan would've pounced them and ended that series early.

I really wish there was a way we could run a simulation and bet on that because I can guarantee you wouldn't throw your money up.

[1987_Lakers]

It's just delusional to say prime MJ would lose to the derozan Raptors or oladipo Pacers. Or honestly the rookie Tatum Celtics too.

You can make an argument for a young '88-'93 version of MJ, even though I personally feel he would fall short because LeBron is the greatest floor-raiser ever. But no way '96-'98 MJ could do it with that '18 Cavs cast. LeBron was the better player when both players were in their 30's.