Duncan( 97-99) vs Wemby (23-25) two years in...who you got?

[1987_Lakers]

I would probably take Duncan, but it's way closer than some people think, especially when you consider how well Wemby is playing this season.

[Phoenix]

I would probably take Duncan, but it's way closer than some people think, especially when you consider how well Wemby is playing this season.

Agreed. Just defensively I feel like people are underestimating how much of a game changer this dude is. He doesn't even have anyone on the team remotely as good as 99 David Robinson for the championship argument to even matter. That's why I was trying to steer the conversation to just comparing them as on-floor talents, but throwing out the chip argument takes way less effort.

[3ba11]

Wemby doesn't shoot, dribble or score as well as many other shooters or ball-handlers, so he doesn't have a skill advantage compared to his peers, while Duncan dominated the post better than his peers, so Duncan won right away.. Wemby will always be stuck trying to be guard, so he'll never have an advantage on his peers from a skill standpoint, or achieve the chemistry that Duncan did.

But he'll always be a great stat-padder, so you guys will hold on for a long time before you realize that putting an 8 footer so far from the rim is bad for chemistry.

[1987_Lakers]

Wemby doesn't shoot, dribble or score as well as many other shooters or ball-handlers, so he doesn't have a skill advantage compared to his peers, while Duncan dominated the post better than his peers, so Duncan won right away.. Wemby will always be stuck trying to be guard, so he'll never have an advantage on his peers from a skill standpoint, or achieve the chemistry that Duncan did.

But he'll always be a great stat-padder, so you guys will hold on for a long time before you realize that putting an 8 footer so far from the rim is bad for chemistry.

Remember when you called him a bust? lol

[3ba11]

Remember when you called him a bust? lol

If he doesn't win any titles, or if he has to team-up with opponents like Lebron - then he will be a bust

I think his game sucks tbh... An 8 footer shooting threes and trying to put the ball between his legs - he looks like an idiot.... but you guys just don't understand basketball, which is why it took you 10 years to get tired of threes (as I told you that you would)

[SouBeachTalents]

Remember when you called him a bust? lol

Oof, another horrible take from 3ball.

[Phoenix]

Remember when you called him a bust? lol

And Steph was the most overrated player ever, then two months later he was top 10. And this occurred during the summer of 2021, so he hadn't done anything on the court to even shift that opinion from the end of one season to the start of the next.

[Phoenix]

Wemby doesn't shoot, dribble or score as well as many other shooters or ball-handlers, so he doesn't have a skill advantage compared to his peers, while Duncan dominated the post better than his peers, so Duncan won right away.. Wemby will always be stuck trying to be guard, so he'll never have an advantage on his peers from a skill standpoint, or achieve the chemistry that Duncan did.

But he'll always be a great stat-padder, so you guys will hold on for a long time before you realize that putting an 8 footer so far from the rim is bad for chemistry.

So which category are you putting him in today that you'll flip flop on by next season? Ball-dominator? Bird-fed? Elite jumpshooter?

[3ba11]

And Steph was the most overrated player ever, then two months later he was top 10. And this occurred during the summer of 2021, so he hadn't done anything on the court to even shift that opinion from the end of one season to the start of the next.

Curry proved me wrong because I had a blind spot of the 3ball, but what does Wemby have to prove me wrong??

Nothing... It's simply suboptimal to have a guy that tall play guard and be 1st option - he'll NEVER WIN, unless he stacks the deck like Lebron...

You'll see... You just don't understand how basketball works and get your information from journalism majors, which makes your understanding even worse... Otoh, I had the insight on 3-pointers 10 years ago and people are finally catching up - people are finally realizing that today's game isn't really basketball and sucks

[3ba11]

So which category are you putting him in today that you'll flip flop on by next season? Ball-dominator? Bird-fed? Elite jumpshooter?

He's a 7'5" guy that tries to be a guard... This cannot win because literally ALL his peers shoot and dribble better than him - they do what he does BETTER, so he's just for entertainment and not someone that can win... otoh, Duncan entered the league as the best post player in the game (massive edge over peers), so he won immediately without that much help.

[Phoenix]

Curry proved me wrong because I had a blind spot of the 3ball, but what does Wemby have to prove me wrong??

Nothing... It's simply suboptimal to have a guy that tall play guard and be 1st option - he'll NEVER WIN, unless he stacks the deck like Lebron...

You'll see... You just don't understand how basketball works and get your information from journalism majors, which makes your understanding even worse... Otoh, I had the insight on 3-pointers 10 years ago and people are finally catching up and realizing today's game isn't really basketball and sucks

Your lack of understanding for how basketball works is what caused the original take, not that Curry proved you wrong. Not to mention that calling Curry a top 10 player while also calling the current era inferior is an inherent conflict unto itself.

For the record, I've said multiple times that I think he shoots too many 3's. I think a 7'4 version of how Chris Bosh played offensively in Toronto would be optimal for him, albeit with much greater physical tools and a higher ceiling.

[Phoenix]

He's a 7'5" guy that tries to be a guard... This cannot win because literally ALL his peers shoot and dribble better than him - they do what he does BETTER, so he's just for entertainment and not someone that can win... otoh, Duncan entered the league as the best post player in the game (massive edge over peers), so he won immediately without that much help.

I just need a category. And who would be his peers in this case?

[SouBeachTalents]

Your lack of understanding is what caused the original take, not that Curry proved you wrong.

For the record, I've said multiple times that I think he shoots too many 3's. I think a 7'4 version of how Chris Bosh played offensively in Toronto would be optimal for him, albeit with much greater physical tools and a higher ceiling.

Yep, him being proven wrong wasn't the issue, it was that he genuinely had no idea what he was talking about He took an absolutely brutal beating in that thread, even from posters who support him like tpols

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1#post14582825

[Phoenix]

Yep, him being proven wrong wasn't the issue, it was that he genuinely had no idea what he was talking about He took an absolutely brutal beating in that thread, even from posters who support him like tpols

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1#post14582825

Exactly. He's done everything to underplay that his original take was one of the worst opinions ever written on this board. That he 'came around' on it is neither here or there. And the funny thing is, he changed his mind during the off-season.

[3ba11]

Your lack of understanding is what caused the original take, not that Curry proved you wrong.

For the record, I've said multiple times that I think he shoots too many 3's. I think a 7'4 version of how Chris Bosh played offensively in Toronto would be optimal for him, albeit with much greater physical tools and a higher ceiling.

I don't watch basketball, so I missed the 3-point revolution, but once I was up to speed on threes, everything was back to normal - I predict everything right.

Otoh, you guys don't understand how basketball works... When someone says they got "hot" - you have no idea what they're talking about... You don't know what people mean when they say someone is a "dog"... You don't value or understand ball movement, and why it's the best brand of ball.. This is because you've never stood around twiddling your thumbs while some dumb ball-dominator takes forever to make their move.. (you never played).

Again, you don't understand basketball, so you don't understand how suboptimal Wemby's game is - he will need ridiculous help to even contend, let alone win... I guarantee that Popovich knows that he can't win with Wemby, but he's just going along with it because the NBA is just entertainment now anyway (WWE style)..

no one cares about winning anymore or thinks it reflects basketball ability... Things have completely devolved to this level, and it's due to Lebron's "decision", which opened the Overton Window of less competitiveness, such aa an easy-scoring format, load management, colluding with opponents, or the "rings don't matter" philosophy...