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    Default Re: making the impossible possible, what teams want beal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kblaze8855 View Post
    go look at Kawhi Leonard and Paul George’s pay the next several years. Look at what they have done this year and project several more years of it as they become worse.

    Beals contract wouldn’t even be the second worst of people who were on the clippers last season.

    Reading reports of the response from when my team was checking the market for Zach Lavine I’m not sure it compares to that either. Beal got traded in about 45 minutes.

    it would have a hard time contending for the worst contract in wizard history. Even forgetting John wall who is who most would remember recently, they paid Juwan Howard more than Hakeem. At the point beals contract would be expiring he will still being paid the modern copy equivalent of $60 million because you could sign for 7 years in those days.

    Howard’s contract would be like signing….hell I don’t know…Siakam…to 350 million. Except having to pay for 2 more seasonsz
    its telling when you need to go back 30 years to get into the ballpark of contracts being this bad

    Even beal being in the conversation isn’t a good look (for you at least)

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    Default Re: making the impossible possible, what teams want beal?

    Amnesty clause history. Maybe Kblaze should have told all these teams they didn't need to amnesty players since it is so easy to trade them.

    https://boardroom.tv/amnesty-clause-nba-2022/

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    Default Re: making the impossible possible, what teams want beal?

    You think somebody is weird about irrelevant NBA details as I am wouldn’t remember the amnesty clause?

    I didn’t say all bad contracts are easy to trade. I said Bradley Beal would be easy to trade and in fact he was. it was immediately accomplished and didn’t even seem too contentious from the outside looking in Someone else not being easy to trade isn’t particularly relevant is it?

    Anyway, haven’t given it some thought. I’m thinking the worst contract in history Isn’t Howard either. I’m thinking hot Rod Williams, John Koncak, or Ernie de Gregorio.

    I’m pretty sure Ernie was the highest paid player in history at one point, but maybe I won’t count him because there was no salary cap at the time.

    in the days of hot Rod and Koncak, even though they had a cap, the rules were so weird it wasn’t as damaging.

    The dumbest contract ever signed might well be the warriors giving rookie Chris Webber a 15 year contract with a player option after one year that allowed him to demand Don Nelson be fired or he would walk and destroy the franchise. They ended up trading him to you guys as I’m sure youre aware.

    That has to be about the most brain dead signing in history, right?

    except they did it trade it for picks in a couple loaded drafts they ****ed up and googs who was pretty good.

    You guys traded picks from 96 and 98.

    I’m not sure what signing in history had the most real life tangible harm.

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    Default Re: making the impossible possible, what teams want beal?

    Quote Originally Posted by highwhey View Post
    he's on the trade block. unfortunately the suns haven't decided to trade away booker and kd yet but they have benched beal AND nurkic as a result of poor play. kind of weird that after 3 major roster changes, 4 coaches the only common denominator is devin booker but the organization refuses to acknowledge he is the problem. weird huh?

    and rumors are beal is willing to waive the ntc. being benched does that.
    I'll trade you Zach Lavine for him.

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    Default Re: making the impossible possible, what teams want beal?

    Dumb logic. That's like a guy who makes a killing on an options play and then says it is easy.to make money on options plays.

    If Beal doesn't want to go to the Suns, or if the Suns don't get bought by a crazy owner, the deal doesn't happen.

    I suspect the only team neal would really want to go to is Miami. I seriously doubt Riley nis taking on that contract.

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    Default Re: making the impossible possible, what teams want beal?

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan View Post
    its telling when you need to go back 30 years to get into the ballpark of contracts being this bad

    Even beal being in the conversation isn’t a good look (for you at least)

    I don’t have to go past this summer. George is 4 years older than Beal is today not 3 years ago. And he’s making 50+ a year…putting up 16 on 42/34…on a 14-19 team.

    And it might not be the worst contract handed to a Clipper in 2024.

    I legitimately keep forgetting Kawhi Leonard exists. He just played his first game. His knee is made of hopes and dreams. He also makes 50.

    And I don’t think either one of them is the answer either.

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    Default Re: making the impossible possible, what teams want beal?

    Quote Originally Posted by tontoz View Post
    Dumb logic. That's like a guy who makes a killing on an options play and then says it is easy.to make money on options plays.

    If Beal doesn't want to go to the Suns, or if the Suns don't get bought by a crazy owner, the deal doesn't happen.

    I suspect the only team neal would really want to go to is Miami. I seriously doubt Riley nis taking on that contract.

    so you’re telling me if reality weren’t what it is, I would be wrong to have said he could be traded easily? OK. You got me there.

    In worlds that don’t exist I’m sure it was a real hassle. Just not this one.

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    Default Re: making the impossible possible, what teams want beal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kblaze8855 View Post
    You think somebody is weird about irrelevant NBA details as I am wouldn’t remember the amnesty clause?

    I didn’t say all bad contracts are easy to trade. I said Bradley Beal would be easy to trade and in fact he was.
    Sounds like you can't keep your story straight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kblaze8855 View Post

    Won’t be much trouble moving again either. It never is.
    People just feel like it is despite all evidence to the contrary. Theres gonna be 18 players making 48-59 million next year and almost 30 making 40.

    it has never been easier to move a big contract because the CBA has bumped the middle class up to what used to be Max money while holding the previous max players pay below what it used to be percentage wise.

    ar.

    And of course now teams have to worry about the 2nd apron which didn't exist before.

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    Sounds like you can't keep your story straight.

    I’m sure in some alternate universe there’s a conflict there but not in this one. Maybe it’s in the same universe the wizards had trouble trading Beal.

    Feel free to explain it to me and I’ll get back to you a little later. If we could keep the discussion in the world that exists, I would appreciate that though.

    I’ve always had trouble countering arguments based on fictional universes.

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    Default Re: making the impossible possible, what teams want beal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kblaze8855 View Post
    I’m sure in some alternate universe there’s a conflict there but not in this one. Maybe it’s in the same universe the wizards had trouble trading Beal.

    Feel free to explain it to me and I’ll get back to you a little later. If we could keep the discussion in the world that exists, I would appreciate that though.

    I’ve always had trouble countering arguments based on fictional universes.

    A world where big contracts were easy to trade wouldn't have an amnesty clause in the CBA.

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    Default Re: making the impossible possible, what teams want beal?

    if beal was easy to trade this thread wouldn’t exist right now

    lol

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    Default Re: making the impossible possible, what teams want beal?

    If bulls can’t find a deal for Levine after the last 3 years, what makes suns fans think someone is gonna take Beal, who is a shittier player on an even shittier contract?

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    Default Re: making the impossible possible, what teams want beal?

    Beal is doing 18 ppg on 48% and 39% 3P shooting, as 3rd option. What do they want from him?

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    Default Re: making the impossible possible, what teams want beal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    Beal is doing 18 ppg on 48% and 39% 3P shooting, as 3rd option. What do they want from him?
    his talents are extremely redundant on a team shy of depth. they're barely competing against an embiid-less team tonight, fully healthy.

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    Default Re: making the impossible possible, what teams want beal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater View Post
    Beal is doing 18 ppg on 48% and 39% 3P shooting, as 3rd option. What do they want from him?

    He has the worst plus minus on the team, by a lot.

    The bench scorer role will probably be better for him since he will have the ball more.

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