(4) Nuggets vs. (5) Clippers First Round Playoff Series Thread

[Hey Yo]

Here's frame by frame from the halftime show. It literally can't get any closer.

https://x.com/CBeasmoreSports/status...555739911?s=19

[coin24]

Jokers 5 step travel before the airball is wild also

[ArbitraryWater]

Here's frame by frame from the halftime show. It literally can't get any closer.

https://x.com/CBeasmoreSports/status...555739911?s=19

How many frames per second doe?


Theres a shot missing basically.

Is there a shot with the ball out of his hands with the lights off? We have a shot with the lights on and the ball out, but we need a shot with the lights on and the ball out. Its some nano second shit where the passover from touch to no touch happened.

Its as tight as it could possibly be and I love it.

I love the call, Im just exploring the technical depths of this.

[Meticode]

It was the right call. Tough loss for the Clippers.

[Wardell Curry]

https://streamable.com/vnpczk

This is the footage the officials used and determined it was out of his hands when the light came on.


How stupid are they?

No, dumbshits. This is inconclusive because your cameras suck and aren't capturing at or capable of capturing at high enough of a rate to see the moment the ball actually left his fingers. This isn't 1975 and there is no excuse.

Where is the shot of the ball being out of his hands with the light off?

Why a multi billion dollar company doesn't have specialized cameras for end of game moments specifically such as this is beyond me.

Their footage isn't proof of anything. It's inconclusive.

Did the officials really think that because the first frame they were able to see with the light ON the frame showed the ball was out of his hands that it then meant that the ball definitively left his hand on time? lol holy shit clearly an IQ test is not needed to be an NBA official.

[Meticode]

https://streamable.com/vnpczk

This is the footage the officials used and determined it was out of his hands when the light came on.


How stupid are they?

No, dumbshits. This is inconclusive because your cameras suck and aren't capturing at or capable of capturing at high enough of a rate to see the moment the ball actually left his fingers. This isn't 1975 and there is no excuse.

Where is the shot of the ball being out of his hands with the light off?

Why a multi billion dollar company doesn't have specialized cameras for end of game moments specifically such as this is beyond me.

Their footage isn't proof of anything. It's inconclusive.

Did the officials really think that because the first frame they were able to see with the light ON was out of his hands that it meant that the ball definitively left his hand on time? lol holy shit clearly an IQ test is not needed to be an NBA official.

Judging by that and various other angles clip and there wasn't enough evidence for them to overturn the call in my opinion. If they would've called the shot no-good originally, I think the game would've gone to overtime. There simply wasn't enough evidence and it was too close to say it was or wasn't off his fingertips to overturn it.

[Wardell Curry]

Judging by that and various other angles clip and there wasn't enough evidence for them to overturn the call in my opinion. If they would've called the shot no-good originally, I think the game would've gone to overtime. There simply wasn't enough evidence and it was too close to say it was or wasn't off his fingertips to overturn it.

I agree with you completely. However that's not what I'm even saying. What I'm saying is that the official got on the mic and claimed the ball left his hand on time by looking at this footage, which is impossible to determine. He's an idiot.

There's no judgement call to be made here because it's literally impossible to judge. The proper moment was not captured by their cameras.

The ruling should have been inconclusive evidence therefore not overturned. He's an idiot.

[Meticode]

I agree with you completely. However that's not what I'm even saying. What I'm saying is that the official got on the mic and claimed the ball left his hand on time by looking at this footage, which is impossible to determine. He's an idiot.

I'm probably misremembering, but has there ever been an instance where the footage was too close to overturn the call and the official gets on the mic and says something to the effect of, "There wasn't enough evidence to overturn the call. Original call stands."

[Wardell Curry]

I'm probably misremembering, but has there ever been an instance where they footage was too close to overturn the call and the official gets on the mic and says something to the effect of, "There wasn't enough evidence to overturn the call. Original call stands."

I'm pretty sure there have been numerous instances of calls being inconclusive and I seem to remember this being the case but I can't link you a specific call.

However.

https://official.nba.com/2024-25-nba...rther%20review.

Similar to the NBA’s instant replay standards, there must be clear and conclusive video evidence in order to make a determination that a play was incorrectly officiated.

The correct way to go about this based on what they had was "there is not clear and conclusive video evidence in order to make a determination on the validity of the call therefore the basket stands as called on the floor."

AND VERY MUCH NOT!!! NOT!!! "it left his hand on time therefore it's good" lol what an idiot.

[Meticode]

I'm pretty sure there have been numerous instances of calls being inconclusive and I seem to remember this being the case but I can't link you a specific call.

However.

https://official.nba.com/2024-25-nba...rther%20review.



The correct way to go about this based on what they had was "there is not clear and conclusive video evidence in order to make a determination on the validity of the call" therefore the basket stands as called on the floor.

AND VERY MUCH NOT!!! NOT!!! "it left his hand on time therefore it's good" lol what an idiot.

Or maybe the officials thought they saw clear evidence in their judgement and said they saw the ball leave his fingertips.

[Wardell Curry]

Or maybe the officials thought they saw clear evidence in their judgement and said they saw the ball leave his fingertips.

This is the video they were watching as you could see it on the live broadcast on one of their monitors. The one that I linked. This is also what the NBA released.

And what I'm telling you is that their judgement is dogshit and they would score average on an IQ test if they are claiming that they saw the ball leave his fingertips on time.

There is no conclusive evidence. It's black and white that it is inconclusive. There are two frames. One frame with the ball in his hands and the clock still live. One frame with the ball out of his hands with the light on and the clock dead. There were not enough captured frames.

The frame you need is the frame with his hands no longer touching the ball whatsoever and the light still off. That frame doesn't exist because their equipment sucks AND/OR because he didn't get it off on time, which means that video review should be inconclusive.

[ArbitraryWater]

It could well be that the ball left his finger tips here.

[Wardell Curry]

It could well be that the ball left his finger tips here.

It looks like his middle finger and index finger are still on the ball.

This is not conclusive.

There is nothing that 100% supports it was a good shot.

There is nothing that 100% supports it was a bad shot.

It's unclear.

[Full Court]

Here's frame by frame from the halftime show. It literally can't get any closer.

https://x.com/CBeasmoreSports/status...555739911?s=19

It was close enough that the benefit ofthe doubt should have gone to the shooter - as it did. I was rooting for the Clips, but it was the right call.

[Wardell Curry]

This is probably the best possible instance caught on record and unfortunately the angle isn't great.

It's such a precise moment that the electrical impulse hasn't fully lit up the backboard light yet, only partially.

Looks pretty sure like it's still on his fingertips but we can't say for 100% certain. Inconclusive.

Here's the video.

https://x.com/PFTCommenter/status/1916293298915860964

This is better than what the officials used to make their ruling and it's also better than what TNT? gave us or whichever broadcaster it was.