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    Default Re: Jokic is the 4th best player of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    Why are you 3balling and copying and pasting this same post over and over
    It's a factual rebuttal to people's nonsensical posting .

    Besides, everyone has forgotten the whole point of this thread, which is based on impact stats and eye test.

    Everyone is just dumb posting about wins/losses with no context, which is not what this thread is about.

    Jokic is getting the Lebron treatment, which only solidifies Jok's GOATness.

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    Default Re: Jokic is the 4th best player of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    Why are you 3balling and copying and pasting this same post over and over
    Caruso is an all-nba defender and OKC arguably has the best defense over the last 25 years. They have a ton of elite defenders and Jokic still managed 28/14/6 on 59.2 TS%.

    Guys like MJ, Kareem, Lebron, etc have all had many worse playoff series.

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    Default Re: Jokic is the 4th best player of all time

    Bullshit

    We can put this crap to bed

    He's like the center version of lebron - he needs to monopolize the whole offense and it can marginalize teammates, hence his cast showing flashes of greatness (Murray's 23' run) but otherwise mostly sucking during their entire tenure alongside Jokic - this differs from lower APG players and dominant scorers like Curry, MJ, Kobe, Shaq, Bird, etc - their teammates were known for coming through

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    Default Re: Jokic is the 4th best player of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by StrongLurk View Post
    It's a factual rebuttal to people's nonsensical posting .

    Besides, everyone has forgotten the whole point of this thread, which is based on impact stats and eye test.

    Everyone is just dumb posting about wins/losses with no context, which is not what this thread is about.

    Jokic is getting the Lebron treatment, which only solidifies Jok's GOATness.
    It seems like Jokic's performance and impact decline significantly from the regular season to the playoffs. I've only briefly checked this out (excluding his early regular-season years), but I'm noting this because prime lebron was the opposite, I know you're comparing something else with LeBron, but just wanted to mention.

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    Default Re: Jokic is the 4th best player of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by Keno View Post
    It seems like Jokic's performance and impact decline significantly from the regular season to the playoffs. I've only briefly checked this out (excluding his early regular-season years), but I'm noting this because prime lebron was the opposite, I know you're comparing something else with LeBron, but just wanted to mention.


    Jokic has some of the best impact/advanced stats of all time in the playoffs, in fact he's number 1 all time in a few of them.

    But yeah, he TOTALLY has his impact decline in the playoffs...man yall just say anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keno View Post
    It seems like Jokic's performance and impact decline significantly from the regular season to the playoffs. I've only briefly checked this out (excluding his early regular-season years), but I'm noting this because prime lebron was the opposite, I know you're comparing something else with LeBron, but just wanted to mention.


    Jokic has some of the best impact/advanced stats of all time in the playoffs, in fact he's number 1 all time in a few of them.

    But yeah, he TOTALLY has his impact decline in the playoffs...man yall just say anything.

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    Default Re: Jokic is the 4th best player of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by StrongLurk View Post


    Jokic has some of the best impact/advanced stats of all time in the playoffs, in fact he's number 1 all time in a few of them.

    But yeah, he TOTALLY has his impact decline in the playoffs...man yall just say anything.
    Alex. Caruso.

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    Default Re: Jokic is the 4th best player of all time

    Quick refresher for everyone who can't read.

    My OP states "Don't care about "resumes" or accolades at this point. Jokic is above all of that just like MJ/Lebron were. MJ was crowned best ever before his career finished. Lebron hit that same pedestal. Jokic is there too. Kareem, MJ, Lebron, Jokic - 4 best players based on "on the court" ability."

    Like I said already, resumes/accolades are secondary items. Impact stats and eye test put Jokic on the Mt. Rushmore GOAT TIER.

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    Default Re: Jokic is the 4th best player of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by StrongLurk View Post
    Quick refresher for everyone who can't read.

    My OP states "Don't care about "resumes" or accolades at this point. Jokic is above all of that just like MJ/Lebron were. MJ was crowned best ever before his career finished. Lebron hit that same pedestal. Jokic is there too. Kareem, MJ, Lebron, Jokic - 4 best players based on "on the court" ability."

    Like I said already, resumes/accolades are secondary items. Impact stats and eye test put Jokic on the Mt. Rushmore GOAT TIER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highwhey View Post
    Caruso is an all-nba defender and OKC arguably has the best defense over the last 25 years. They have a ton of elite defenders and Jokic still managed 28/14/6 on 59.2 TS%.

    Guys like MJ, Kareem, Lebron, etc have all had many worse playoff series.
    Those are highly misleading stats. He went nuclear (honestly ATG performances) on two games and was total dogshit on 3 others, two of which OKC won that were winnable. He had a 3 game stretch shooting 48%.

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    Default Re: Jokic is the 4th best player of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by StrongLurk View Post
    Caruso is an all-nba defender and OKC arguably has the best defense over the last 25 years. They have a ton of elite defenders and Jokic still managed 28/14/6 on 59.2 TS%.

    Guys like MJ, Kareem, Lebron, etc, have all had many worse playoff series.
    In a website that is run by insane player stans, I have to say I'm impressed what a pathetic NBA fan you are You're trying to justify a 7 footer getting locked up by a average sized guard since.. he's an all-NBA defender. In the same topic you created about him being the 4th best player of all time.

    You're a complete retard.

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    Default Re: Jokic is the 4th best player of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by hold this L View Post
    In a website that is run by insane player stans, I have to say I'm impressed what a pathetic NBA fan you are You're trying to justify a 7 footer getting locked up by a average sized guard since.. he's an all-NBA defender. In the same topic you created about him being the 4th best player of all time.

    You're a complete retard.

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    Default Re: Jokic is the 4th best player of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by hold this L View Post
    Those are highly misleading stats. He went nuclear (honestly ATG performances) on two games and was total dogshit on 3 others, two of which OKC won that were winnable. He had a 3 game stretch shooting 48%.
    i'm just copying what OP says bc he is absolutely retarded

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    Default Re: Jokic is the 4th best player of all time

    It is amusing that people are saying Jokic got "locked up" since he scored only 20. Just shows the standard he is held to.

    Has anyone talked about Murray taking 16 shots to score 13 points?

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    Default Re: Jokic is the 4th best player of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by tontoz View Post
    It is amusing that people are saying Jokic got "locked up" since he scored only 20. Just shows the standard he is held to.

    Has anyone talked about Murray taking 16 shots to score 13 points?
    it's ok to admit jokic choked. getting locked up by a 6'5 guard is embarrassing in a game 7, well in any game, but especially in an elimination game. no need to shift blame to teammates.

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