Atheist COOKS Grifter JORDAN PETERSON, Makes him TAP OUT! :yaohappy:😂🤣:roll:

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Pseudo intellectual JORDAN PETERSON has inspired so many right wingers to clean their room. It's amazing how much smarter the average lib picked off of the street is compared to one of the most prominent voices on the right. He ran away!

[Patrick Chewing]

OP never cleans his room and has skids on his underwear.

[Meticode]

There was really no debate really here. The atheist set a trap for Peterson to walk into which was him giving vague definition of worship basically trying to make Peterson acknowledge he worships Mary which contradicting to Christian beliefs because she is no god. The atheist even gave him the opportunity to elaborate on his definition and he chose not to in the beginning. This in turn would have to make Peterson admit that his definition of worship was bad and if you've ever watched Peterson for long enough he doesn't like admitting when he's wrong. He'll argue tooth and nail until he admits it. He then loses his cool and starts name-calling the Atheist because he doesn't want to deal with the fact he just got backed into a corner he can't argue out of.

[TheMan]

I'm a Catholic, we venerate the Virgin Mary, hold her in the highest esteem but we worship God only.

[TheMan]

The weird thing about JP is that he refuses to just come out and say he's Christian, talks like one all the time but refuses to give a straight answer.

He did look bad in that debate though, I felt embarrassed for him. Say what you believe in and defend your position instead of obfuscating.

[Meticode]

I'm a Catholic, we venerate the Virgin Mary, hold her in the highest esteem but we worship God only.

It's the wording that sparks conversation. For example in Christianity and especially Catholicism she's referred to "the mother of God". Some people will substitute words like worship for the word pray when they're different things for example saying, "Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death”.

Also what doesn't help is she's held in such high esteem in the Catholic Church that in many churches she has her own altar and wing to pray to. Many older generations people will actually pray to the Virgin Mary. My grandmother did often and I remember her referencing Mary in these examples often in prayer. I never really hear anyone praying to other figures in the church like an apostle or saint. It's either Jesus/God or Mary. So many people contradict themselves in the church without even knowing it probably because they're ignorant of that fact of what they're doing.

I have a lot thought on this because I went to a private Catholic school my full schooling from 1st grade until graduation. The funny thing is I turned out and became Agnostic.

[TheMan]

It's the wording that sparks conversation. For example in Christianity and especially Catholicism she's referred to "the mother of God". Some people will substitute words like worship for the word pray when they're different things for example saying, "Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death”.

Also what doesn't help is she's held in such high esteem in the Catholic Church that in many churches she has her own altar and wing to pray to. Many older generations people will actually pray to the Virgin Mary. My grandmother did often and I remember her referencing Mary in these examples often in prayer. I never really hear anyone praying to other figures in the church like an apostle or saint. It's either Jesus/God or Mary. So many people contradict themselves in the church without even knowing it probably because they're ignorant of that fact of what they're doing.

I have a lot thought on this because I went to a private Catholic school my full schooling from 1st grade until graduation. The funny thing is I turned out and became Agnostic.

I also went to Catholic school and was agnostic until a few years ago when I witnessed a miracle and have since been Catholic again.

[Meticode]

I also went to Catholic school and was agnostic until a few years ago when I witnessed a miracle and have since been Catholic again.

I've been Agnostic for roughly 23 years now. Over half my life. What was the miracle you witnessed?

[fsvr54]

Atheism is a religion. Some of the most hateful people I've ever seen were Athiests.

Agnosticism is where it's at.

[MrFonzworth]

Atheism is a religion. Some of the most hateful people I've ever seen were Athiests.

Agnosticism is where it's at.

You might be retarded

[TheMan]

I've been Agnostic for roughly 23 years now. Over half my life. What was the miracle you witnessed?

I don't like sharing too much personal details but here goes...when my youngest son was 4 years old, he started having seizures. Then he started losing developmental milestones and soon he couldn't walk nor speak. Doctors were alarmed with how quickly he was regressing, we took him to some of the best neurosurgeons and they were baffled. Doctors were running tests and he was in the best pediatric hospital in the country for over a month and everything came up negative, they couldn't come up with a diagnosis but some doctors believed he had some sort of progressive degenerative disease. In other words, that he would get worse and eventually die. That was easily the darkest moments of my life, you haven't experienced pain until you come to the realization that your child will die.

Not to make this too long, doctors released my son, that drive home was the most painful moments me and wife experienced as a couple, we were told there was nothing they could do and to just make his last months of life as comfortable as we could. Then our pediatric doctor told us about a case a colluege had had that was similar to what my boy was going through and he also had no diagnosis and in a last ditch effort, he told us about a priest that did prayers for the other boy and he recovered completely and when you're put in a situation like that, you will try ANYTHING, especially if you don't even know what is wrong with your child so my wife and my sisters in law took him and right away my son started getting better, he was able to eat on his own, then he started standing up and walking on his own, then on exactly Mother's Day, he started uttering words, it was months that he hadn't spoken. Fast forward, we took him to a priest that did exorcisms en masse and he assured us he would be fine and he really got well fast after that...

Believe me bro, I was a science first skeptic agnostic, I wasn't against the idea of a higher being, hell we still are clueless about a lot of phenomenon in our universe but watching this miracle in front of my own eyes made me a believer, it is not a coincidence that he started getting better the moment me and my wife got close to the church.

I know this is a long post and most people will think I'm nuts but I have video evidence of just how bad my son got. It's painful to watch it but I keep the videos even though my wife has told me to delete them but they are a reminder of the miracle that happened before our own eyes, that that did happen because I'm happy to say my boy hasn't had a seizure since then, he's been off of those meds since he was 5, he's now going to turn 12 and is completely normal, as if that never happened...

To wrap this up, my son has told me that he doesn't remember much of that period but he does remember that "a monster was trying to eat him", his words. A neighbor told us that she would hear kids laughing and talking at 3 in the morning, coming from our house and she thought that was odd considering we took our sons to school at 6 am. Another thing, right after my son had his seizures and before he started losing abilities, he couldn't sleep, maybe an hour or two at the most, it was really frustrating because as soon as he was about to sleep, he would get startled and wake up quickly...thinking back, my boy didn't want to sleep, something was attacking him during his sleep, as crazy as that sounds. The exorcism and prayers helped, and forget how exorcisms are shown in the movies, they are nothing like that in real life...

Demons are real, he was being attacked by one, I'm sure of it, none of it by his fault. I was told by a priest that my boy has a special light and that attracts malevolent beings and during that time, me and my wife were going through a rough patch, she was considering a divorce, that type of negative vibes permits evil to enter into your life.

[TheMan]

Last thing, the doctors who saw my boy at his worst are genuinely shocked that he made a full recovery, they were convinced that he was either going to die or if what he had stopped, that he would need extensive therapy and never fully recover all his abilities. He is completely normal today, never shuts up, rambunctious and is a ball of energy running around all the time and you get no complaints from me lol

God is good.

[1987_Lakers]

I don't like sharing too much personal details but here goes...when my youngest son was 4 years old, he started having seizures. Then he started losing developmental milestones and soon he couldn't walk nor speak. Doctors were alarmed with how quickly he was regressing, we took him to some of the best neurosurgeons and they were baffled. Doctors were running tests and he was in the best pediatric hospital in the country for over a month and everything came up negative, they couldn't come up with a diagnosis but some doctors believed he had some sort of progressive degenerative disease. In other words, that he would get worse and eventually die. That was easily the darkest moments of my life, you haven't experienced pain until you come to the realization that your child will die.

Not to make this too long, doctors released my son, that drive home was the most painful moments me and wife experienced as a couple, we were told there was nothing they could do and to just make his last months of life as comfortable as we could. Then our pediatric doctor told us about a case a colluege had had that was similar to what my boy was going through and he also had no diagnosis and in a last ditch effort, he told us about a priest that did prayers for the other boy and he recovered completely and when you're put in a situation like that, you will try ANYTHING, especially if you don't even know what is wrong with your child so my wife and my sisters in law took him and right away my son started getting better, he was able to eat on his own, then he started standing up and walking on his own, then on exactly Mother's Day, he started uttering words, it was months that he hadn't spoken. Fast forward, we took him to a priest that did exorcisms en masse and he assured us he would be fine and he really got well fast after that...

Believe me bro, I was a science first skeptic agnostic, I wasn't against the idea of a higher being, hell we still are clueless about a lot of phenomenon in our universe but watching this miracle in front of my own eyes made me a believer, it is not a coincidence that he started getting better the moment me and my wife got close to the church.

I know this is a long post and most people will think I'm nuts but I have video evidence of just how bad my son got. It's painful to watch it but I keep the videos even though my wife has told me to delete them but they are a reminder of the miracle that happened before our own eyes, that that did happen because I'm happy to say my boy hasn't had a seizure since then, he's been off of those meds since he was 5, he's now going to turn 12 and is completely normal, as if that never happened...

To wrap this up, my son has told me that he doesn't remember much of that period but he does remember that "a monster was trying to eat him", his words. A neighbor told us that she would hear kids laughing and talking at 3 in the morning, coming from our house and she thought that was odd considering we took our sons to school at 6 am. Another thing, right after my son had his seizures and before he started losing abilities, he couldn't sleep, maybe an hour or two at the most, it was really frustrating because as soon as he was about to sleep, he would get startled and wake up quickly...thinking back, my boy didn't want to sleep, something was attacking him during his sleep, as crazy as that sounds. The exorcism and prayers helped, and forget how exorcisms are shown in the movies, they are nothing like that in real life...

Demons are real, he was being attacked by one, I'm sure of it, none of it by his fault. I was told by a priest that my boy has a special light and that attracts malevolent beings and during that time, me and my wife were going through a rough patch, she was considering a divorce, that type of negative vibes permits evil to enter into your life.

Powerful story. Glad your son is doing better.

[Meticode]

I don't like sharing too much personal details but here goes...when my youngest son was 4 years old, he started having seizures. Then he started losing developmental milestones and soon he couldn't walk nor speak. Doctors were alarmed with how quickly he was regressing, we took him to some of the best neurosurgeons and they were baffled. Doctors were running tests and he was in the best pediatric hospital in the country for over a month and everything came up negative, they couldn't come up with a diagnosis but some doctors believed he had some sort of progressive degenerative disease. In other words, that he would get worse and eventually die. That was easily the darkest moments of my life, you haven't experienced pain until you come to the realization that your child will die.

Not to make this too long, doctors released my son, that drive home was the most painful moments me and wife experienced as a couple, we were told there was nothing they could do and to just make his last months of life as comfortable as we could. Then our pediatric doctor told us about a case a colluege had had that was similar to what my boy was going through and he also had no diagnosis and in a last ditch effort, he told us about a priest that did prayers for the other boy and he recovered completely and when you're put in a situation like that, you will try ANYTHING, especially if you don't even know what is wrong with your child so my wife and my sisters in law took him and right away my son started getting better, he was able to eat on his own, then he started standing up and walking on his own, then on exactly Mother's Day, he started uttering words, it was months that he hadn't spoken. Fast forward, we took him to a priest that did exorcisms en masse and he assured us he would be fine and he really got well fast after that...

Believe me bro, I was a science first skeptic agnostic, I wasn't against the idea of a higher being, hell we still are clueless about a lot of phenomenon in our universe but watching this miracle in front of my own eyes made me a believer, it is not a coincidence that he started getting better the moment me and my wife got close to the church.

I know this is a long post and most people will think I'm nuts but I have video evidence of just how bad my son got. It's painful to watch it but I keep the videos even though my wife has told me to delete them but they are a reminder of the miracle that happened before our own eyes, that that did happen because I'm happy to say my boy hasn't had a seizure since then, he's been off of those meds since he was 5, he's now going to turn 12 and is completely normal, as if that never happened...

To wrap this up, my son has told me that he doesn't remember much of that period but he does remember that "a monster was trying to eat him", his words. A neighbor told us that she would hear kids laughing and talking at 3 in the morning, coming from our house and she thought that was odd considering we took our sons to school at 6 am. Another thing, right after my son had his seizures and before he started losing abilities, he couldn't sleep, maybe an hour or two at the most, it was really frustrating because as soon as he was about to sleep, he would get startled and wake up quickly...thinking back, my boy didn't want to sleep, something was attacking him during his sleep, as crazy as that sounds. The exorcism and prayers helped, and forget how exorcisms are shown in the movies, they are nothing like that in real life...

Demons are real, he was being attacked by one, I'm sure of it, none of it by his fault. I was told by a priest that my boy has a special light and that attracts malevolent beings and during that time, me and my wife were going through a rough patch, she was considering a divorce, that type of negative vibes permits evil to enter into your life.

Wow, what a turnaround of events. I'm glad your son is safe and your family is together. I can definitely see why you made your belief much more specific in that case. I don't know if I truly would switch or not if I were in that situation, but you honestly never know until you actually in a situation like that. It's only guesses at that point.

I've only had a couple of supernatural happenings in my life and not until very recently. I've never been a demons or ghost believer. I've always hoped that death is the beginning of something else further and not just the end...even since I've been Agnostic I've felt this way. A couple years ago I was dating this woman who believed in spirits to the point she claims she's communicated with them. I didn't think much of it. She had told me that the previous owner of her house had died in the bedroom of natural causes over 20 years ago and she's claimed to have things like noises, doors closing in the house for no reason, etc.

One night I stayed overnight and she went to use the bathroom. I was laying on the bed on my phone stomach down with my elbows propping me up. Then suddenly on the back on my leg I felt like something poked me. I swatted blindly at it with my left hand thinking it was a cat (she had two) putting his paw on me, but when I turned around and looked there was nothing there and nothing ran out of the room. I thought, "Hmmm weird." The next night same thing happened, except this time on my back of my leg it felt like someone was doing the walking or step motion with their two fingers pointer and index up the back of my leg. I swatted at it again thinking it was a cat walking up my leg. When I swatted and felt nothing I looked and again nothing was there, I thought "Okay, I'm a little freaked out now." after that happened I told her about that night and the previous night and she's like "I told you so!"

Then about a week later we just had sex, it was about 10 at night and she's just laying there staring up at the ceiling fan that's on and I'm halfway sitting up with my back resting against the headboard. We're just having one of those deep conversations about life and what we've been through. I'm telling her about my younger brother who was adopted out of my family when I was nine and he was two that lives down in Florida that I don't have a close relationship with at all. And while I'm telling her this story the corner of the foot of the bed sinks down as if something is sitting on it, but nothing is there and the hairs on the back of my neck stand up and I immediately want to leave. I ignore it though. She never noticed it and I never said anything to her. We dated a couple months after that until we broke up, but nothing ever happened further.

[MrFonzworth]

Wow, what a turnaround of events. I'm glad your son is safe and your family is together. I can definitely see why you made your belief much more specific in that case. I don't know if I truly would switch or not if I were in that situation, but you honestly never know until you actually in a situation like that. It's only guesses at that point.

I've only had a couple of supernatural happenings in my life and not until very recently. I've never been a demons or ghost believer. I've always hoped that death is the beginning of something else further and not just the end...even since I've been Agnostic I've felt this way. A couple years ago I was dating this woman who believed in spirits to the point she claims she's communicated with them. I didn't think much of it. She had told me that the previous owner of her house had died in the bedroom of natural causes over 20 years ago and she's claimed to have things like noises, doors closing in the house for no reason, etc.

One night I stayed overnight and she went to use the bathroom. I was laying on the bed on my phone stomach down with my elbows propping me up. Then suddenly on the back on my leg I felt like something poked me. I swatted blindly at it with my left hand thinking it was a cat (she had two) putting his paw on me, but when I turned around and looked there was nothing there and nothing ran out of the room. I thought, "Hmmm weird." The next night same thing happened, except this time on my back of my leg it felt like someone was doing the walking or step motion with their two fingers pointer and index up the back of my leg. I swatted at it again thinking it was a cat walking up my leg. When I swatted and felt nothing I looked and again nothing was there, I thought "Okay, I'm a little freaked out now." after that happened I told her about that night and the previous night and she's like "I told you so!"

Then about a week later we just had sex, it was about 10 at night and she's just laying there staring up at the ceiling fan that's on and I'm halfway sitting up with my back resting against the headboard. We're just having one of those deep conversations about life and what we've been through. I'm telling her about my younger brother who was adopted out of my family when I was nine and he was two that lives down in Florida that I don't have a close relationship with at all. And while I'm telling her this story the corner of the foot of the bed sinks down as if something is sitting on it, but nothing is there and the hairs on the back of my neck stand up and I immediately want to leave. I ignore it though. She never noticed it and I never said anything to her. We dated a couple months after that until we broke up, but nothing ever happened further.