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Re: Who would you say are the most underrated U.S. Presidents?
 Originally Posted by Meticode
To be serious though I'm semi-trolling, but I do feel the black community generally doesn't even acknowledge Lincoln and the footprint he's had on their lives. He was the first stepping stone to blacks having at least "some" rights and eventually not being slaves. That snowballed into people rising up with louder voices like Martin Luther King Jr. or Malcolm X fighting for civil rights.
I often wonder how the United States would look today if Lincoln didn't exist or if the Confederates won the war.
There are statues and avenues in Mexico named in honor of Lincoln.
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Re: Who would you say are the most underrated U.S. Presidents?
 Originally Posted by John8204
I think America is so heavily focused on black/white issues that people don't rank McKinley as a bottom tier President. In truth he was the closest we had to Hitler, he did terrible things during his run.
Say what you want about the Spanish-American War, but that War basically made us a global power.
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Re: Who would you say are the most underrated U.S. Presidents?
 Originally Posted by MrFonzworth
Joe Biden
This. /Thread.
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Re: Who would you say are the most underrated U.S. Presidents?
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Re: Who would you say are the most underrated U.S. Presidents?
 Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Two of the most popular presidential historians on YouTube.
3 of the 4 presidents I listed in OP were in A or B tier. William McKinley finished in D tier, but the guy on the bottom had him B tier, I found myself agreeing with him more on these placements.
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Re: Who would you say are the most underrated U.S. Presidents?
I kind of feel like their only worth ranking over the last 100 years or so. Before that? Society was just too different. I mean before Lincoln most of the Presidents were slave owners.
It's like comparing Bob Pettit and George Mikan to Curry and Lebron. They were basically playing different games all together. Not only that but none of us saw Pettit and Mikan so we don't have a great grasp on their impact.
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Re: Who would you say are the most underrated U.S. Presidents?
 Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Two of the most popular presidential historians on YouTube.
3 of the 4 presidents I listed in OP were in A or B tier. William McKinley finished in D tier, but the guy on the bottom had him B tier, I found myself agreeing with him more on these placements.
I like how impartial they are when it comes to taking sides. All of the most recent "pride and joys", Reagan for Republicans and Obama for the Democrats both in the C group. Which is probably accurate IMO.
Then not ranking Trump admitting that it's too early and that there are clear biases.
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Re: Who would you say are the most underrated U.S. Presidents?
 Originally Posted by Bill Gates
I kind of feel like their only worth ranking over the last 100 years or so. Before that? Society was just too different. I mean before Lincoln most of the Presidents were slave owners.
It's like comparing Bob Pettit and George Mikan to Curry and Lebron. They were basically playing different games all together. Not only that but none of us saw Pettit and Mikan so we don't have a great grasp on their impact.
They state numerous times that society was different back then and they take that into account, it's not like they are penalizing Thomas Jefferson for being a slave owner. lol.
The guy with the glasses is more of a liberal, while the guy at the bottom is more conservative. But it was interesting to see how similar they graded most of these presidents. The biggest discrepancy funny enough was William McKinley who I had in the OP.
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Re: Who would you say are the most underrated U.S. Presidents?
 Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
I like how impartial they are when it comes to taking sides. All of the most recent "pride and joys", Reagan for Republicans and Obama for the Democrats both in the C group. Which is probably accurate IMO.
Then not ranking Trump admitting that it's too early and that there are clear biases.
I think Reagan finished in B tier, but barely. It came down to a poll by fans which basically finished 51-49.
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Re: Who would you say are the most underrated U.S. Presidents?
GW Bush is now somehow underrated for how bad he was. Democrats today act like Trump is worse than Bush/Cheney. Lmao.
Worst terrorist attack ever on his watch.
2 completely useless wars
Torture
The complete violation of everyone’s privacy through the patriot act and other shit.
Worst banking crash since the 1920’s
Etc
Etc
Etc
Dude got crazy underrated after Trump.
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