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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
 Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Cant quit me!
I do miss cousins getting frustrated as gobert dominated him. Cousins and garza mba finals finally! 
5/6/2 that's Rudy's stat line in the conference finals 
Cousins is putting up those numbers in the first quarter against scawny Holmgrem
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Re: Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
 Originally Posted by Manny98
5/6/2 that's Rudy's stat line in the conference finals
Cousins is putting up those numbers in the first quarter against scawny Holmgrem 
Still cant quit me!
Cousins last played in the league when?
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Re: Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
i didn't even notice he made the fan sniff his nuts. nah man, fck that he deserved to have trash and drinks thrown at him like a zoo animal. you want to act like a fkn animal, then you'll get treated like one.
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Re: Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
Blame the kings. If hed played for a better franchise hed be a different guy
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Re: Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
 Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Blame the kings. If hed played for a better franchise hed be a different guy 
You’re an idiot. You can feel cousins isn’t a leader, winner etc But you can’t deny the Kings franchise is also bad. And doesn’t put talented players in position to win. Sabonis is a highly skilled big man on a losing franchise. Blame him not the Kings tho…
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Re: Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
Aside from the mental/cognitive/personality/intangible stuff, the biggest weakness with his game was subpar rim finishing due to poor vertical pop/jumping. He could neither jump high nor quickly; he just couldn't get off the ground--very much a below-the-rim guy. It's why he often led the NBA in blocked FGAs.
In New Orleans, he shot like 60% at the rim compared to AD's 72%. 57.4% with AD on the court, and 61.4% when AD was off it. Davis shot pretty much the same with or without him, so DMC definitely benefited less from the pairing. AD had a much higher TS% when they were on the court together, but DMC had a higher TS% and scored more when comparing how they did solo, when the other was off.
It was a clunky fit, and Cousins' game suffered more because of it. Still, in 2017-18, he improved to 105 TS+ and +0.32 FG Add per 36 minutes & +1.165 TS Add per 36 minutes. The scoring efficiency was there, on 25.2 ppg and a 31.9 USG%. Turnovers were the issue, which was exacerbated by the awkward fit.
In his prime from 2013-14 up until the injury in 2017-18, Cousins was 25.2 ppg/27.4 points per 75 poss/34.3 USG% on 102 TS+ and +0.506 TS Add per 36 minutes. And nearly half of that was prior to his 3PT shooting, which he was good at & made him more efficient.
For comparison, from 2022-2025, Tatum has averaged 27.7 ppg/28.35 points per 75 poss/31.6 USG% on 103 TS+ and +0.793 TS Add per 36 minutes. This with superb spacing and supporting cast.
It's a testament to his diverse skill set and versatility that he was able to be an above league-average efficiency scorer on high volume despite his inefficiency at the rim. He played nearly as many minutes at PF alongside Koufos & Cauley-Stein during the last couple of Sacramento seasons.
His game worked better playing like a big slasher-shooter-playmaker wing. Although he lacked vertical pop, he was surprisingly quick and hard to stay in front of with his long strides & bulk without fouling. Like a bigger, stronger, bully-ball version of KAT who shoots worse but is a better defender and can attack off-the-dribble better.
His last season in SAC was the best he ever played and a good representation of his talent in the modern context. He was nearly 50-50 playing C and PF. A true combo big.
- 27.8 ppg (30.7 per 75), 10.6 rpg, 4.8 apg (27.4 AST%), 1.4 spg, 1.3 bpg, 3.8 topg (13.2 TOV%)
- 56.2% TS (102 TS+), 35.6% 3PT (4.9 3pa/g), 77.0% FT (10.0 fta/g, 49.1% FTr)
- +7.2 BPM (5.6 off; 1.6 def)
Last edited by Im Still Ballin; 06-13-2025 at 04:34 AM.
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I don't get picked last at the park anymore
Re: Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
 Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
Aside from the mental/cognitive/personality/intangible stuff, the biggest weakness with his game was subpar rim finishing due to poor vertical pop/jumping. He could neither jump high nor quickly; he just couldn't get off the ground--very much a below-the-rim guy. It's why he often led the NBA in blocked FGAs.
In New Orleans, he shot like 60% at the rim compared to AD's 72%. 57.4% with AD on the court, and 61.4% when AD was off it. Davis shot pretty much the same with or without him, so DMC definitely benefited less from the pairing. AD had a much higher TS% when they were on the court together, but DMC had a higher TS% and scored more when comparing how they did solo, when the other was off.
It was a clunky fit, and Cousins' game suffered more because of it. Still, in 2017-18, he improved to 105 TS+ and +0.32 FG Add per 36 minutes & +1.165 TS Add per 36 minutes. The scoring efficiency was there, on 25.2 ppg and a 31.9 USG%. Turnovers were the issue, which was exacerbated by the awkward fit.
In his prime from 2013-14 up until the injury in 2017-18, Cousins was 25.2 ppg/27.4 points per 75 poss/34.3 USG% on 102 TS+ and +0.506 TS Add per 36 minutes. And nearly half of that was prior to his 3PT shooting, which he was good at & made him more efficient.
For comparison, from 2022-2025, Tatum has averaged 27.7 ppg/28.35 points per 75 poss/31.6 USG% on 103 TS+ and +0.793 TS Add per 36 minutes. This with superb spacing and supporting cast.
It's a testament to his diverse skill set and versatility that he was able to be an above league-average efficiency scorer on high volume despite his inefficiency at the rim. He played nearly as many minutes at PF alongside Koufos & Cauley-Stein during the last couple of Sacramento seasons.
His game worked better playing like a big slasher-shooter-playmaker wing. Although he lacked vertical pop, he was surprisingly quick and hard to stay in front of with his long strides & bulk without fouling. Like a bigger, stronger, bully-ball version of KAT who shoots worse but is a better defender and can attack off-the-dribble better.
His last season in SAC was the best he ever played and a good representation of his talent in the modern context. He was nearly 50-50 playing C and PF. A true combo big.
- 27.8 ppg (30.7 per 75), 10.6 rpg, 4.8 apg (27.4 AST%), 1.4 spg, 1.3 bpg, 3.8 topg (13.2 TOV%)
- 56.2% TS (102 TS+), 35.6% 3PT (4.9 3pa/g), 77.0% FT (10.0 fta/g, 49.1% FTr)
- +7.2 BPM (5.6 off; 1.6 def)
Excellent analysis of Cousins, never seen it before as everyone are harping on the narrative as "Cousins best Center" hurr durr.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
 Originally Posted by GOBB
You’re an idiot. You can feel cousins isn’t a leader, winner etc But you can’t deny the Kings franchise is also bad. And doesn’t put talented players in position to win. Sabonis is a highly skilled big man on a losing franchise. Blame him not the Kings tho…
Havent denied it. Yet sabonis 1st season they were 3rd in west. 46 wins the next and 40 this season after they traded one of their two best players. Big difference between that and being one of the worst teams in the league despite having supposedly one of the great players in the game. Cousins led a team with 3 20 point scorers to 28 wins.
Last edited by Xiao Yao You; 06-13-2025 at 05:48 AM.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
 Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
Aside from the mental/cognitive/personality/intangible stuff, the biggest weakness with his game was subpar rim finishing due to poor vertical pop/jumping. He could neither jump high nor quickly; he just couldn't get off the ground--very much a below-the-rim guy. It's why he often led the NBA in blocked FGAs.
In New Orleans, he shot like 60% at the rim compared to AD's 72%. 57.4% with AD on the court, and 61.4% when AD was off it. Davis shot pretty much the same with or without him, so DMC definitely benefited less from the pairing. AD had a much higher TS% when they were on the court together, but DMC had a higher TS% and scored more when comparing how they did solo, when the other was off.
It was a clunky fit, and Cousins' game suffered more because of it. Still, in 2017-18, he improved to 105 TS+ and +0.32 FG Add per 36 minutes & +1.165 TS Add per 36 minutes. The scoring efficiency was there, on 25.2 ppg and a 31.9 USG%. Turnovers were the issue, which was exacerbated by the awkward fit.
In his prime from 2013-14 up until the injury in 2017-18, Cousins was 25.2 ppg/27.4 points per 75 poss/34.3 USG% on 102 TS+ and +0.506 TS Add per 36 minutes. And nearly half of that was prior to his 3PT shooting, which he was good at & made him more efficient.
For comparison, from 2022-2025, Tatum has averaged 27.7 ppg/28.35 points per 75 poss/31.6 USG% on 103 TS+ and +0.793 TS Add per 36 minutes. This with superb spacing and supporting cast.
It's a testament to his diverse skill set and versatility that he was able to be an above league-average efficiency scorer on high volume despite his inefficiency at the rim. He played nearly as many minutes at PF alongside Koufos & Cauley-Stein during the last couple of Sacramento seasons.
His game worked better playing like a big slasher-shooter-playmaker wing. Although he lacked vertical pop, he was surprisingly quick and hard to stay in front of with his long strides & bulk without fouling. Like a bigger, stronger, bully-ball version of KAT who shoots worse but is a better defender and can attack off-the-dribble better.
His last season in SAC was the best he ever played and a good representation of his talent in the modern context. He was nearly 50-50 playing C and PF. A true combo big.
- 27.8 ppg (30.7 per 75), 10.6 rpg, 4.8 apg (27.4 AST%), 1.4 spg, 1.3 bpg, 3.8 topg (13.2 TOV%)
- 56.2% TS (102 TS+), 35.6% 3PT (4.9 3pa/g), 77.0% FT (10.0 fta/g, 49.1% FTr)
- +7.2 BPM (5.6 off; 1.6 def)
Should you been slashing if you cant finish at the rim? I ve been told finishing at a high rate doesnt mean anything anyway even when you are elite at it
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Re: Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
 Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Should you been slashing if you cant finish at the rim? I ve been told finishing at a high rate doesnt mean anything anyway even when you are elite at it
His finishing was relatively better in a slashing, dribble-drive context than in a more traditional rim-running, roll, cut, and putback sense. It spaced the floor and played to his strengths a bit more, leveraging his foul drawing, three-point shooting, and passing.
Second Spectrum Drives Tracking (2016-17):
- 8.9 drives/g, 6.2 points/g, 59.1% TS, 1.00 PPP, 1.21 PPP with passes (estimated)
He was 51.7% TS and 0.94 PPP on 4.2 poss/g as a PnR Roll Man in 2016-17, per Synergy Sports Tracking. He was 1.08 PPP as a shooter (spot-up, off-screen, hand-off) on 6.6 poss/g. Playing off the threat of his three-ball made him a more efficient scorer, effective playmaker, and beneficial floor spacer.
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Re: Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
DeMarcus did somewhat benefit from being arguably the best center during a lean period for the position. At his best, you'd have to rank him behind Jokic, Embiid (healthy), and Wemby. AD, also, if you consider him a C. He'd be borderline top 5, in that Rudy/KAT/Bam/Jaren/Bam tier.
4th at best with no AD @ center. 5th at best with AD @ center. Like what Mourning or Daugherty were to Shaq, Hakeem, Robinson, and Ewing.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
 Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
His finishing was relatively better in a slashing, dribble-drive context than in a more traditional rim-running, roll, cut, and putback sense. It spaced the floor and played to his strengths a bit more, leveraging his foul drawing, three-point shooting, and passing.
Second Spectrum Drives Tracking (2016-17):
- 8.9 drives/g, 6.2 points/g, 59.1% TS, 1.00 PPP, 1.21 PPP with passes (estimated)
He was 51.7% TS and 0.94 PPP on 4.2 poss/g as a PnR Roll Man in 2016-17, per Synergy Sports Tracking. He was 1.08 PPP as a shooter (spot-up, off-screen, hand-off) on 6.6 poss/g. Playing off the threat of his three-ball made him a more efficient scorer, effective playmaker, and beneficial floor spacer.
He was a 35% 3 point shooter. Hes not towns. He could rebound. A back up spotting up for 3s and rebounding.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
 Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
DeMarcus did somewhat benefit from being arguably the best center during a lean period for the position. At his best, you'd have to rank him behind Jokic, Embiid (healthy), and Wemby. AD, also, if you consider him a C. He'd be borderline top 5, in that Rudy/KAT/Bam/Jaren/Bam tier.
4th at best with no AD @ center. 5th at best with AD @ center. Like what Mourning or Daugherty were to Shaq, Hakeem, Robinson, and Ewing.
He was never better than any of those guys. Those guys help you win games. He destroyed his team. Gobert owned him. Hed get so frustrated playing against rudy. I do miss that!
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Sixers|Eagles|Phillies
Re: Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
 Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Havent denied it. Yet sabonis 1st season they were 3rd in west. 46 wins the next and 40 this season after they traded one of their two best players. Big difference between that and being one of the worst teams in the league despite having supposedly one of the great players in the game. Cousins led a team with 3 20 point scorers to 28 wins. 
Haven’t denied it? Interesting. Hard to find much supporting that. I guess because you’re incredibly loud about Cousins and talk silently about the Kings franchise. Notice the team trending down with Sabonis? Blame cousins for that. Sabonis too.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Demarcus Cousin almost had a ''Malice in the palace'' moment in Puerto Rico
 Originally Posted by GOBB
Haven’t denied it? Interesting. Hard to find much supporting that. I guess because you’re incredibly loud about Cousins and talk silently about the Kings franchise. Notice the team trending down with Sabonis? Blame cousins for that. Sabonis too.
Ive mentuoned the kings franchise provlems many times. Apparently his current francgise in puerto rico has similar issues. Demarcus certainlt cant be blamed. Guve the fuy a better franchise and he is an all time great!
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