Cooper Flagg Discussion Thread

[Carbine]

Or maybe it's a smart move. The money lost going from #3 to #8 isn't that much if the situation is MUCH better to become "the guy"

Philly can't give him the shots needed to be anything more than a third/fourth option at best.

If he forces his way to Nets he can take #2 and eventually #1 option shot attempts during his rookie contract, enabling him to get a bag for his second contract all while being "the man" for that team.

[GOBB]

Or maybe it's a smart move. The money lost going from #3 to #8 isn't that much if the situation is MUCH better to become "the guy"

Philly can't give him the shots needed to be anything more than a third/fourth option at best.

If he forces his way to Nets he can take #2 and eventually #1 option shot attempts during his rookie contract, enabling him to get a bag for his second contract all while being "the man" for that team.

Not smart at all really. Go to a bad franchise and expect winning results. Just doing numbers won’t matter. Jordan Poole went to a crappy franchise and look how his career is panning out since leaving a good situation with the Warriors. The only difference would be the relationship with Green and how much that factored in him not being there. But he expressed a strong desire to “be the man”.

It’s also not like the Sixers are deep. George plays forward but losing Yabu the Sixers are thin at forward. Sixers bench isn’t the strongest either. It’s made up of guys who have to prove/fight for minutes. I guess that’s what he is afraid of? Given he did run to Rutgers.

I don’t see a good situation being a 18yr old with ball handling issues (attacking rim, creating space) where not being able to develop vs putting up “numbers” is beneficial for him per say. But hey he wanna go to nets or Wizards good luck.

He’s being given some bad advice as well as preparation. Agent/parents whomever is dropping the ball. Why didn’t he hire Rich Paul

Spurs situation isn’t any better and Dylan Harper isn’t following suit.

[tontoz]

We need a good break after getting ****ed in the lottery. Ace at 6 would be a gift.

[GOBB]

We need a good break after getting ****ed in the lottery. Ace at 6 would be a gift.

Spending possible but who knows with all these reports. It’s getting kinda exhausting lol I’m just read for the draft to be over.

And all this Paul George trade talks make zero sense.

[Meticode]

Less than a week to go! Ace Bailey is probably the most interesting part of the draft right now. Flagg and Harper are a lock for number one and two. Bailey choosing to not workout for anyone is kind of perplexing. Not even working out for the Sixers who are slotted to pick him at number three? Maybe post-draft in an interview he'll let people know why him and/or his agent chose to do this?

[tontoz]

Wizards are actively trying to trade up to 2 for Harper as well. I would give up a lot to get him, 6 + 18 and any player they want.

[Meticode]

Wizards are actively trying to trade up to 2 for Harper as well. I would give up a lot to get him, 6 + 18 and any player they want.

Time to restart the rebuild for the Wizards?

[Im Still Ballin]

If only they still had Avdija to offer in the deal.

[tontoz]

If only they still had Avdija to offer in the deal.

That is a sore subject

It has been decades since the Wizards drafted someone outside of the top 3 that didnt suck. We finally hit on a guy, resigned him to a cheap contract, then dump him.

[Meticode]

Michael Wilbon talks about the Ace Bailey situation. Bailey's camp gets called delusional, talks about how Josh Jackson out of Kansas in 2017. The Celtics flew all the out to the West coast because he was their main target on their radar and after the Celtics landed to watch him workout he cancelled the workout on them. The Celtics ended up drafting Tatum because of this.

Wilbon said, "It's stupid...him and his advisors...what that is is ego-mania. I hope he can separate himself from stupid advice he's being given if it's not just him making this choice."

https://youtu.be/rLcc2ROOfR8?t=265

[ShawkFactory]

Michael Wilbon talks about the Ace Bailey situation. Bailey's camp gets called delusional, talks about how Josh Jackson out of Kansas in 2017. The Celtics flew all the out to the West coast because he was their main target on their radar and after the Celtics landed to watch him workout he cancelled the workout on them. The Celtics ended up drafting Tatum because of this.

Wilbon said, "It's stupid...him and his advisors...what that is is ego-mania. I hope he can separate himself from stupid advice he's being given if it's not just him making this choice."

https://youtu.be/rLcc2ROOfR8?t=265

Yep and we see what happened with Jackson...nothing. Some people like to say that professionalism with athletes doesn't matter but it does. If you're not even going to handle the draft process like a pro then how is anyone supposed to believe that you're going to take anything else seriously enough to be as great as possible?

[Meticode]

Yep and we see what happened with Jackson...nothing. Some people like to say that professionalism with athletes doesn't matter but it does. If you're not even going to handle the draft process like a pro then how is anyone supposed to believe that you're going to take anything else seriously enough to be as great as possible?

Just need to look at the Sanders situation in the NFL. Meeting with the Giants went horribly showing immaturity. Now the season hasn't even started yet and he's been pulled over twice in Cleveland within a month for going like 40mph over. Already showing unprofessionalism and immaturity.

[GOBB]

Yep and we see what happened with Jackson...nothing. Some people like to say that professionalism with athletes doesn't matter but it does. If you're not even going to handle the draft process like a pro then how is anyone supposed to believe that you're going to take anything else seriously enough to be as great as possible?

He’s 18. While some responsibility should be on him. The people who are older, wiser, experienced should be the ones guiding him. They hold way more responsibility in that regard. Again he gets no passes however be mindful of the age and maturity. We all learn how to be a professional from observing but mostly being schooled by…a professional. Ijs.

Whoever is advising him be it agent, parents, others (any combination) are doing him a disservice.

[tontoz]

Yep and we see what happened with Jackson...nothing. Some people like to say that professionalism with athletes doesn't matter but it does. If you're not even going to handle the draft process like a pro then how is anyone supposed to believe that you're going to take anything else seriously enough to be as great as possible?

Jalen Johnson quit Duke in the middle of the season. Was that professional? Does Atlanta care?

I give no Fs about Bailey's agent pissing people off.

[ShawkFactory]

Jalen Johnson quit Duke in the middle of the season. Was that professional? Does Atlanta care?

I give no Fs about Bailey's agent pissing people off.

Obviously not now. But that's likely a big reason why he fell as far as he did.