Who is calling the shots? Trump or Israel?

[Baller234]

Who is leading who?

Speak your facts, not your opinions.

Wild conspiracy theories are welcome if they are backed up by facts.

[highwhey]

the country that drew first blood (israel), then dragged the USA into their conflict.

[diamenz]

any us action ultimately falls on the president but the weight and influence of the lobby is so immense due to not just the money flow but military action set in motion by israel as well as pieces carefully placed that's designed to force his hand; that even if he were deadset on resisting, especially in a scenario such as the current one, in the end it would be futile. the lobby always wins, whether it be tomorrow or the next decade. netanyahu knows this and he's effective at manipulating this power.

[BigKobeFan]

Both saudi and israel

[Doomsday Dallas]

I’ve been calling out Israel and getting banned for speaking negatively on the Jews since 2007. My track record speaks for itself.

They own the MSM, they own our entertainment industry, and clearly they own our politicians.

The facts of WWI and WWII are to be disputed… but ultimately it led to the formation of an Israeli State in 1948, and the UN being founded as well. This was by design.

Then you have the Biblical account… which is a long story.

Oh… and then you have controversy that the original Jews were black, and not the Jews we see today. Kyrie Irving makes references of a movie pointing this out and gets suspended indefinitely.

There were Jews celebrating in NY as the towers fell, and this is documented as fact. They got taken into custody because they were celebrating… not to mention there were Mossad vans in the area of NY (with logos of airplanes on them) if you do your research.


Israel owns our ass… and Netanyahu has said it himself.

[Bill Gates]

Neither, the US Military-Industrial Complex is calling the shots. They do not care who the POTUS is. This war would be happening under Kamala or literally anyone else.

I suppose that is sort of a "conspiracy theory" but it really isn't. It is the only way it could be really. They are the ones with all the intel, not the POTUS, and TBH it makes way more sense for them to be calling the shots.

[Baller234]

I’ve been calling out Israel and getting banned for speaking negatively on the Jews since 2007. My track record speaks for itself.

They own the MSM, they own our entertainment industry, and clearly they own our politicians.

The facts of WWI and WWII are to be disputed… but ultimately it led to the formation of an Israeli State in 1948, and the UN being founded as well. This was by design.

Then you have the Biblical account… which is a long story.

Oh… and then you have controversy that the original Jews were black, and not the Jews we see today. Kyrie Irving makes references of a movie pointing this out and gets suspended indefinitely.

There were Jews celebrating in NY as the towers fell, and this is documented as fact. They got taken into custody because they were celebrating… not to mention there were Mossad vans in the area of NY (with logos of airplanes on them) if you do your research.


Israel owns our ass… and Netanyahu has said it himself.

Jews run Hollywood because the jews built Hollywood. It doesn't mean there's a grand scheme tied to Israel. Kyrie Irving having his documentary banned could have been the decision of some woke jew exec who got offended for all we know.

Also what about Weinstein? Was he part of the club too? If so then why is he in jail now? Why couldn't he just use his jew card?

So basically you're saying that the jews are responsible for every monumental world war and world happening since the dawn of the 20th century? That they are evil puppet masters with wizard like ability to manipulate everyone around the globe into doing their bidding?

9/11 for example, that was the jews acting through Osama Bin Laden? And Pearl Harbor, that was the jews acting through the japanese?

[Doomsday Dallas]

Jews run Hollywood because the jews built Hollywood. It doesn't mean there's a grand scheme tied to Israel. Kyrie Irving having his documentary banned could have been the decision of some woke jew exec who got offended for all we know.

Also what about Weinstein? Was he part of the club too? If so then why is he in jail now? Why couldn't he just use his jew card?

So basically you're saying that the jews are responsible for every monumental world war and world happening since the dawn of the 20th century? That they are evil puppet masters with wizard like ability to manipulate everyone around the globe into doing their bidding?

9/11 for example, that was the jews acting through Osama Bin Laden? And Pearl Harbor, that was the jews acting through the japanese?

There is an element of sorcery and witchcraft behind it…

Some will dispute it’s not the Jews, it’s just a group of Luciferians….

We know the Nazi’s were into the occult too, same as the Vatican… same as the Masons.

All im saying, from my research, Jews have perfected the craft. (And obviously I’m not calling out the entire Jewish population, but there is a faction that has sold out to the occult)

[Baller234]

There is an element of sorcery and witchcraft behind it…

Some will dispute it’s not the Jews, it’s just a group of Luciferians….

We know the Nazi’s were into the occult too, same as the Vatican… same as the Masons.

All im saying, from my research, Jews have perfected the craft. (And obviously I’m not calling out the entire Jewish population, but there is a faction that has sold out to the occult)

[TheMan]

I’ve been calling out Israel and getting banned for speaking negatively on the Jews since 2007. My track record speaks for itself.

They own the MSM, they own our entertainment industry, and clearly they own our politicians.

The facts of WWI and WWII are to be disputed… but ultimately it led to the formation of an Israeli State in 1948, and the UN being founded as well. This was by design.

Then you have the Biblical account… which is a long story.

Oh… and then you have controversy that the original Jews were black, and not the Jews we see today. Kyrie Irving makes references of a movie pointing this out and gets suspended indefinitely.

There were Jews celebrating in NY as the towers fell, and this is documented as fact. They got taken into custody because they were celebrating… not to mention there were Mossad vans in the area of NY (with logos of airplanes on them) if you do your research.


Israel owns our ass… and Netanyahu has said it himself.

That original Jews were black is total bunk, but in terms of genetics, the Palestinian people are way more closer genetically to the original Jews who've always been in Palestine than the colonizers who moved there from Russia and Eastern Europe when the state of Israel was illegally created. Most of the Zionists are Europeans impersonating Jews.

[Baller234]

any us action ultimately falls on the president but the weight and influence of the lobby is so immense due to not just the money flow but military action set in motion by israel as well as pieces carefully placed that's designed to force his hand; that even if he were deadset on resisting, especially in a scenario such as the current one, in the end it would be futile. the lobby always wins, whether it be tomorrow or the next decade. netanyahu knows this and he's effective at manipulating this power.

This is the most plausible theory I have heard so far. Not saying I agree or disagree, but it's as plausible a theory as any.

So if we're to follow this logic, how far do you think Trump can be pushed? Do you believe he can he be coerced into a suicide mission?

[TheMan]

Neither, the US Military-Industrial Complex is calling the shots. They do not care who the POTUS is. This war would be happening under Kamala or literally anyone else.

I suppose that is sort of a "conspiracy theory" but it really isn't. It is the only way it could be really. They are the ones with all the intel, not the POTUS, and TBH it makes way more sense for them to be calling the shots.

This is an insane take.

The military industrial complex only cares about making war, war is profitable for these goons, do you really believe this is about knocking out Iran's nuclear bombs program??? LMAO The Zionists are the only ones in that region that have amassed illegal nuclear bombs, they've been called out numerous times by the nuclear community but because they're shielded by the world's biggest bully, they feel untouchable, and rightly so, they own DC.

[Bill Gates]

This is an insane take.

The military industrial complex only cares about making war, war is profitable for these goons, do you really believe this is about knocking out Iran's nuclear bombs program??? LMAO The Zionists are the only ones in that region that have amassed illegal nuclear bombs, they've been called out numerous times by the nuclear community but because they're shielded by the world's biggest bully, they feel untouchable, and rightly so, they own DC.

You're backing my point

Israel wouldn't be doing anything without the US backing, and like you said "war is profitable for these goons". So yeah. They are running the show here. Maybe you misread my post or something.

[TheMan]

You're backing my point

Israel wouldn't be doing anything without the US backing, and like you said "war is profitable for these goons". So yeah. They are running the show here. Maybe you misread my post or something.

Ok, I thought you were saying it's ok for the MIC to call the shots because they had legit intel Iran was making bombs...my bad

[Bill Gates]

The true motives behind it can only be unknown to us though. Maybe there is a legit nuclear threat, maybe there isn't. A poster in here acting as though they have all the insight into that kind of intel just can't be taken seriously.

We can see already though, that Trump is commanding the US oil producers to produce more. So we do know wealth is at least part of the equation here.