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    From the biggest Trump hater out there. Cenk.
    https://x.com/cenkuygur/status/1937532113533972695

    I'm really happy to see that Trump is furious at Israel. Why? That means he's serious about peace at this point. Because Israel almost always breaks the cease fires. Then the US president has to swallow their pride and lie on behalf of Israel and pretend it wasn't their fault. But Trump didn't do that!

    He shouldn't have started the war in the first place. But he's fighting for the cease fire to work. And the only way it works is if you get Israel under control. So, credit where credit is due.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    Ok so if it's a guarantee then what's the over/under? How long do you think it will take for Israel to disrupt the ceasefire? A week? A month? A year? Two years? Genuinely asking. It's easy to make a guarantee when you don't have to provide a timetable and there's zero risk of being proven wrong. Otherwise you can just keep playing that "any day now" card until the end of time.

    Also if the goal of Israel is all out war, why would they honor a ceasefire to begin with?

    And if they're the ones calling the shots, who has the power to make them accept those terms?

    Is Trump just saying what he's told? Is this ceasefire all just one giant ruse? Is Israel playing 9D chess again?
    First, I can't tell you a timeline bro, be real, I'm not privy to intelligence reports, all I have to go on is how Israel has acted before, they have broken literally every ceasefire, even those favorable to them, it's not a hard prediction to make. Second, Israel was running short of interceptor missiles, they agreed to a ceasefire to restock, seems like their Iron Dome was antisemitic, lots of Iranian missiles got through. This was a welcomed pause because Iran has thousands of more missiles... lastly, that maniac Netanyahu is on numerous videos stating that the end goal is regime change through the years, this strikes were an excuse to his real goal, regime change.

    The Iranian plutonium stockpile is safe and hidden God knows where, so those strikes didn't accomplish shit and the 60% plutonium enrichment was a bargaining chip, only thing these strikes accomplished is making Iran, who stopped their nuclear bomb program in 2003, to now go full on to get nukes since apparently if you have nukes, the US leaves you alone, go ask Kim Yung Un.

    This was a complete and utter failure. If you disagree, what was accomplished?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan View Post
    First, I can't tell you a timeline bro, be real, I'm not privy to intelligence reports, all I have to go on is how Israel has acted before, they have broken literally every ceasefire, even those favorable to them, it's not a hard prediction to make. Second, Israel was running short of interceptor missiles, they agreed to a ceasefire to restock, seems like their Iron Dome was antisemitic, lots of Iranian missiles got through. This was a welcomed pause because Iran has thousands of more missiles... lastly, that maniac Netanyahu is on numerous videos stating that the end goal is regime change, the Iranian plutonium stockpile is safe and hidden God knows where, so those strikes didn't accomplish shit and the 60% plutonium enrichment was a bargaining chip, only thing these strikes accomplished is making Iran, who stopped their nuclear bomb program in 2003, to now go full on to get nukes since apparently if you have nukes, the US leaves you alone, go ask Kim Yung Un.

    This was a complete and utter failure. If you disagree, what was accomplished?
    There you go again with this "ceasefire" talk.

    I thought you said the goal was all out warfare. How could there be a ceasefire? Who has the power to make them agree to that? Why wouldn't they just drop the hammer as planned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    From the biggest Trump hater out there. Cenk.
    https://x.com/cenkuygur/status/1937532113533972695

    I'm really happy to see that Trump is furious at Israel. Why? That means he's serious about peace at this point. Because Israel almost always breaks the cease fires. Then the US president has to swallow their pride and lie on behalf of Israel and pretend it wasn't their fault. But Trump didn't do that!

    He shouldn't have started the war in the first place. But he's fighting for the cease fire to work. And the only way it works is if you get Israel under control. So, credit where credit is due.
    Seems like you haven't been following the latest on Cenk TYT infighting with other progressives. TYT has shifted ideologically, trying to win over MAGA and that's not been taken well by other left podcasters. TYT's viewership is tanking because of this, they've been called grifters, call me unsurprised by his Trump glazing.

    Keep up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    There you go again with this "ceasefire" talk.

    I thought you said the goal was all out warfare. How could there be a ceasefire? Who has the power to make them agree to that? Why wouldn't they just drop the hammer as planned?
    You really are dense. I just laid it out to you in my previous post. Netanyahu's ultimate goal is regime change but with the US leading the charge. He still has 3 1/2 years of Trump to drag him into a full out war.

    Hopefully the next president won't be beholden to AIPAC but not holding my breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan View Post
    Seems like you haven't been following the latest on Cenk TYT infighting with other progressives. TYT has shifted ideologically, trying to win over MAGA and that's not been taken well by other left podcasters. TYT's viewership is tanking because of this, they've been called grifters, call me unsurprised by his Trump glazing.

    Keep up
    Cenk was literally shitting on Trump a few days ago. Keep up.



    At least he can give credit when it's due. Your Trump derangement syndrome is strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    Cenk was literally shitting on Trump a few days ago. Keep up.



    At least he can give credit when it's due. Your Trump derangement syndrome is strong.
    I literally just told you that if Trump brokers a real peace between Israel and Palestine, that he should get a Nobel Peace prize

    If he does that, Iran will not be the threat it is to Israel since a lot of their animosity stems from the Palestinian genocide happening rn.

    And by winning MAGA I mean he wants to win over Trump's soft supporters, not his hardcore supporters who he has said are long gone. You can see for yourself, he laid out his strategy in a recent debate with Krystal Ball and Kyle Kulinski.

    Again, keep up
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan View Post
    You really are dense. I just laid it out to you in my previous post. Netanyahu's ultimate goal is regime change but with the US leading the charge. He still has 3 1/2 years of Trump to drag him into a full out war.

    Hopefully the next president won't be beholden to AIPAC but not holding my breath.
    You said that regime change was the goal was after the fact. At first you said the goal was all out war:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan View Post
    Israel never honors ceasefires, like ever. Yeah, they will fake an Iran attack just so they try to drag the US into a war with Iran, that is 100% a guarantee. Netanyahu is really just nuts, he wants a full scale war with Iran, with the US leading the attack, of course.
    Looks like the jew magic is very effective on you. You're talking in circles now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan View Post
    I'm in San Antonio, Texas...last I heard, it was part of the US though Mexicans run shit here lol.

    Just give it up bro, go kiss some more Zionist ass, we know who your overlords are and it's not a good look. I hope you're happy the AIPAC owns Washington, we should have endless ME conflicts for the foreseeable future
    Mexicans don't run shit but a taco stand.

    Do you know what a Zionist is? It's a person that believes that Israel has the right to exist. If you believe they do, then that makes you a Zionist too . Dumbass beaner thinking his IQ level is on par with the rest of us. You're nothing more than a conspiracy theorist with your little tinfoil hat with a swastika on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    You said that regime change was the goal was after the fact. At first you said the goal was all out war:



    Looks like the jew magic is very effective on you. You're talking in circles now.
    He sounds like those crazy purple-haired Liberals that go on TikTok and record themselves raging and throwing a tantrum. He talks as if Israel doesn't have years upon years of reasons to actually lay waste to Iran.

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    The B2 attack didn't succeed.

    WASHINGTON − A preliminary Pentagon intelligence assessment has found the U.S. strikes on three Iranian nuclear facilities set back Iran's nuclear program by a few months, according to a U.S. government source familiar with the intelligence findings.

    Early evidence has shown the bombing did not reach depths necessary to destroy the facilities, which are buried deeply underground, according to a second U.S. official.

    The June 21 airstrikes by U.S. Air Force B-2 stealth bombers used the military’s most powerful conventional weapon, the GBU-57 bunker buster. The 30,000-pound bombs burrow deep into the earth before exploding.

    However, initial assessments show that they did not reach depths to destroy Iran’s nuclear capability completely, said another U.S. official familiar with the intelligence but not authorized to speak publicly.

    A third U.S. official confirmed the findings in the Defence Intelligence Agency report, which was first reported by CNN.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ys/ar-AA1HlKZE

    So we will be in this same situation next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladefd View Post
    The B2 attack didn't succeed.


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ys/ar-AA1HlKZE

    So we will be in this same situation next year.


    A few months?

    LOL


    Alright.... so more bombs are coming. That's great.

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    “We basically — we have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don’t know what the f‑‑‑ they’re doing,” Trump told reporters at the White House before taking off for a trip to The Hague for the NATO Summit.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/5365719...ran-ceasefire/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing View Post
    Mexicans don't run shit but a taco stand.

    Do you know what a Zionist is? It's a person that believes that Israel has the right to exist. If you believe they do, then that makes you a Zionist too . Dumbass beaner thinking his IQ level is on par with the rest of us. You're nothing more than a conspiracy theorist with your little tinfoil hat with a swastika on it.
    Thats not what a zionist is you moron.

    Can you even point out Israel on the map? Voting for Trump doesn't make you tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladefd View Post
    The B2 attack didn't succeed.


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ys/ar-AA1HlKZE

    So we will be in this same situation next year.
    This story originally came from CNN by Natasha Bertrand. Same person who said the Hunter Biden laptop story was Russian propaganda, we know how that ended.

    Sadly you can't trust any news source nowadays.

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