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    Default Re: Imagine getting gifted Doncic and suggesting you are owed more help

    Matt Ryan has an MVP. Cam Newton won MVP, hell a kicker won MVP back in the 80's I believe. Doesn't mean anything.

    That's like saying Boomer Esiason was considered a better QB than Montana by some because he won MVP while Montana was in the league and in his prime.

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    Default Re: Imagine getting gifted Doncic and suggesting you are owed more help

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    Matt Ryan has an MVP. Cam Newton won MVP, hell a kicker won MVP back in the 80's I believe. Doesn't mean anything.

    That's like saying Boomer Esiason was considered a better QB than Montana by some because he won MVP while Montana was in the league and in his prime.
    You do realize that those letters stand for "Most Valuable Player, " right? There are absolutely a lot of people that vote that award to whoever they think is the best player. You are basing your argument on your own ignorance and backing it up by pointing out that you don't know any better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green View Post
    You do realize that those letters stand for "Most Valuable Player, " right? There are absolutely a lot of people that vote that award to whoever they think is the best player. You are basing your argument on your own ignorance and backing it up by pointing out that you don't know any better.
    So in your mind, Cam Newton was a better QB than Brady at one point.
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    Default Re: Imagine getting gifted Doncic and suggesting you are owed more help

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    So in your mind, Cam Newton was once considered better than Brady at one point.
    By MVP voters in that season he was. It's not a judgment on their whole careers, it's the opinion of any mvp voter that thinks the best quarterback for that season is the most valuable player. Try to keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green View Post
    By MVP voters in that season he was. It's not a judgment on their whole careers, it's the opinion of any mvp voter that thinks the best quarterback for that season is the most valuable player. Try to keep up.
    Yea, and Derrick Rose was considered better than LeBron and Kobe when he won his MVP as well.

    Time to go to sleep old man.

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    Default Re: Imagine getting gifted Doncic and suggesting you are owed more help

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    Yea, and Derrick Rose was considered better than LeBron and Kobe when he won his MVP as well.

    Time to go to sleep old man.
    Some voters did think Rose was the best player in the league. Not sure why all of this is so hard for your to understand. In fact Jackson has won MVP twice. Guys don't win that award without impressing a lot of people. You not being able to understand something that's pretty basic doesn't mean it isn't true. Goodnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green View Post
    Some voters did think Rose was the best player in the league. Not sure why all of this is so hard for your to understand. In fact Jackson has won MVP twice. Guys don't win that award without impressing a lot of people. You not being able to understand something that's pretty basic doesn't mean it isn't true. Goodnight.
    No, he was simply the best player on the best team in the regular season. How can you not understand something that's so basic? People who win MVP usually have the best team around them.

    Nobody was calling Rose the best player in the NBA.

    Now please go away. Just like you did in the political forum once Trump won.

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    Default Re: Imagine getting gifted Doncic and suggesting you are owed more help

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    No, he was simply the best player on the best team in the regular season. How can you not understand something that's so basic? People who win MVP usually have the best team around them.

    Nobody was calling Rose the best player in the NBA.

    Now please go away. Just like you did in the political forum once Trump won.

    Reverting a LeBron topic into NFL.

    Doncic averaged 4 more points than Bron and had as many assists and rebounds and a far better plus minus.

    Even Davis was averaging more points, higher percentage, more blocks and rebounds than LeBron. Far better defense.

    And this guy is carrying his team? Not to mention he is a horrible teammate.

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    Default Re: Imagine getting gifted Doncic and suggesting you are owed more help

    RMWG with some astoundingly bad takes in the thread. Somehow not knowing Mahomes had 3 Super Bowls, using ring count as virtually the entire basis of his argument like a casual would, claiming people EVER thought Derrick Rose was the best player in the league.

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    Default Re: Imagine getting gifted Doncic and suggesting you are owed more help

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    No, he was simply the best player on the best team in the regular season. How can you not understand something that's so basic? People who win MVP usually have the best team around them.

    Nobody was calling Rose the best player in the NBA.

    Now please go away. Just like you did in the political forum once Trump won.
    Strange to see you talking about lack of understanding. Every player that wins an mvp award in a sport has people that think they're the best player. Every single one. I stopped posting in the politics forum because I got sick of talking to loons like you that swore Biden was stealing the election. Don't worry, I'll get sick of you here as well.

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    Default Re: Imagine getting gifted Doncic and suggesting you are owed more help

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    RMWG with some astoundingly bad takes in the thread. Somehow not knowing Mahomes had 3 Super Bowls, using ring count as virtually the entire basis of his argument like a casual would, claiming people EVER thought Derrick Rose was the best player in the league.
    So who other than Brady is the greatest quarterback? Are you aware of the reason why Brady has consensus GOAT status?

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    Imagine being a 40 plus year old billionaire and giving a shit what the public thinks????

    I mean LeBron literally proves that being tall, athletic, and rich doesn’t mean shit.

    Dude is so insecure he uses foundations, think tanks, ad firms, and entertainment agencies to peddle his cause.

    Straight up disgusting.

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    Default Re: Imagine getting gifted Doncic and suggesting you are owed more help

    Quote Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green View Post
    Strange to see you talking about lack of understanding. Every player that wins an mvp award in a sport has people that think they're the best player. Every single one. I stopped posting in the politics forum because I got sick of talking to loons like you that swore Biden was stealing the election. Don't worry, I'll get sick of you here as well.
    Yup, I’m sure the kicker who won MVP in the 80s had people calling him the best player in the league, Same goes for Wes Unseld when he won MVP in his rookie year averaging a little over 10 ppg. Gtfo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdot_thadon View Post
    Almost like having a mvp level Scottie Pippen and still needing more help in 95.......
    Ether.


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    Default Re: Imagine getting gifted Doncic and suggesting you are owed more help

    Quote Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green View Post
    So who other than Brady is the greatest quarterback? Are you aware of the reason why Brady has consensus GOAT status?
    Honestly, people don't want to admit it, but it is Peyton Manning. Most MVP's and 1st team all pro selections for an NFL QB. Also changed the way the position. Without Peyton, there is no Brady, Brees, Rodgers etc.

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