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KD + Lebron = 5 MVP and 6 rings.. This equals MJ except 6 less scoring title or DPOY
so KD and Lebron did less in 40 years than MJ did in 15 years
while averaging 5 less PPG in the playoffs (playing at a lower level entirely).
KD was locked up by Wes Matthews, Tatum and Prince in the playoffs - Tatum exposed that a tiny bit of physicality turns KD into a bad player, so he would never make it in the 90's.
Last edited by 3ba11; 07-10-2025 at 10:08 PM.
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Re: KD + Lebron = 5 MVP and 6 rings.. This equals MJ except 6 less scoring title or D
Great observation.
There's a reason Jordan is still overwhelmingly the consensus GOAT despite the fierce Lebron media campaign and all the recency bias. There are levels to this game, and Lebron and KD just aren't on the same level as MJ.
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Re: KD + Lebron = 5 MVP and 6 rings.. This equals MJ except 6 less scoring title or D
Jordan + West + Wade + CP3 = 5 MVP's and 10 rings. This equals Russell except less rings.
So Jordan, West, Wade & CP3 did less in 60 years than Russell did in 13.
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Re: KD + Lebron = 5 MVP and 6 rings.. This equals MJ except 6 less scoring title or D
Holy shit this is so boring
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: KD + Lebron = 5 MVP and 6 rings.. This equals MJ except 6 less scoring title or D
 Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Jordan + West + Wade + CP3 = 5 MVP's and 10 rings. This equals Russell except less rings.
So Jordan, West, Wade & CP3 did less in 60 years than Russell did in 13.
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Re: KD + Lebron = 5 MVP and 6 rings.. This equals MJ except 6 less scoring title or D
 Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Jordan + West + Wade + CP3 = 5 MVP's and 10 rings. This equals Russell except less rings.
So Jordan, West, Wade & CP3 did less in 60 years than Russell did in 13.
Jordan + scrubs isn't analogous to my KD + Lebron example.
So the OP stands
If you could use Bird or Magic or Shaq, then you might have something... But you can't use the same caliber of player that I used with KD/Lebron.. You have to use Jordan plus CP frieking 3.. gtfo you lose
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: KD + Lebron = 5 MVP and 6 rings.. This equals MJ except 6 less scoring title or D
 Originally Posted by 3ba11
Jordan + scrubs isn't analogous to my KD + Lebron example.
So the OP stands
If you could use Bird or Magic or Shaq, then you might have something... But you can't use the same caliber of player that I used with KD/Lebron.. You have to use Jordan plus CP frieking 3.. gtfo you lose
Wade's a scrub? So that means LeBron won his first 2 titles with his best teammate as a scrub.
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Re: KD + Lebron = 5 MVP and 6 rings.. This equals MJ except 6 less scoring title or D
 Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Wade's a scrub? So that means LeBron won his first 2 titles with his best teammate as a scrub.

Lebron turned Wade into a scrub by reducing his stats and giving him a 2nd option legacy.
If Wade had stayed on his own and remained a top dog, then he would be compared to Kobe and MJ as a standard.. But instead, he's left out of all conversations like that because Lebron reduced Wade's game and legacy.
Again, you have to use guys like Magic or Bird to make it analogous - you have to use top 15 guys like I did with KD/Lebron... You can't use top 100 guys like CP3 and say it's the same..
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Re: KD + Lebron = 5 MVP and 6 rings.. This equals MJ except 6 less scoring title or D
 Originally Posted by 3ba11
Lebron turned Wade into a scrub by reducing his stats and giving him a 2nd option legacy.
If Wade had stayed on his own and remained a top dog, then he would be compared to Kobe and MJ as a standard.. But instead, he's left out of all conversations like that because Lebron reduced Wade's game and legacy.
Again, you have to use guys like Magic or Bird to make it analogous - you have to use top 15 guys like I did with KD/Lebron... You can't use top 100 guys like CP3 and say it's the same..
Kd isn’t consensus top 15. He also has a 2nd option legacy playing with curry
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Re: KD + Lebron = 5 MVP and 6 rings.. This equals MJ except 6 less scoring title or D
 Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
Holy shit this is so boring
It really is. OP is trying to hype up AND also criticize Lebron and KD in the same thread, even within the same posts. Guess someone let him out of the old folks/mental ward again.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: KD + Lebron = 5 MVP and 6 rings.. This equals MJ except 6 less scoring title or D
If Reggie could put up great scoring @ 6'7 180 lbs I dont see how 7ft 230 lb Durant can't hang. Hes a much bigger better Reggie Miller.
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Re: KD + Lebron = 5 MVP and 6 rings.. This equals MJ except 6 less scoring title or D
 Originally Posted by NBAGOAT
Kd isn’t consensus top 15. He also has a 2nd option legacy playing with curry
Curry has a 'only 1 fmvp' legacy.
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Full Court is a deepthroating retard who still bleeds a lot over random posters
 Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Jordan + West + Wade + CP3 = 5 MVP's and 10 rings. This equals Russell except less rings.
So Jordan, West, Wade & CP3 did less in 60 years than Russell did in 13.
Interesting.
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Re: KD + Lebron = 5 MVP and 6 rings.. This equals MJ except 6 less scoring title or D
Thread cliffs:
Jordan is GOAT. Lebron is an entire tier below.
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