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    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    So you admit Trump tricked you?
    Personally I wasn't holding my breath after he didn't go after anyone in his first term, but the right as a whole is shot and a lot of people are very disappointed and suspicious, like they should be.

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    Obama would just claim he was unaware. And it could be 100% true. The FBI is it's own entity.

    When a POTUS is elected into office, the FBI doesn't approach them and spill out every file they have on everything. They have probably endless information on all sorts of shit. And there are probably certain procedures the POTUS has to take to get a briefing or access, to classify or declassify anything, etc.


    I'll tell you this though, there is absolutely a huge internal battle going on within the FBI, because there is no way in hell they released that prison cell footage without understanding the meta-data could be inspected. They released that HOPING to get caught. And it went over the heads of Kash and Bongino who are not tech savy individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster View Post
    Personally I wasn't holding my breath after he didn't go after anyone in his first term, but the right as a whole is shot and a lot of people are very disappointed and suspicious, like they should be.
    Better late than never I guess.

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    I see you gave up on trying to rationalize the chef thing.
    it's a reach. you're a cvck as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Off the Court View Post
    Obama would just claim he was unaware. And it could be 100% true. The FBI is it's own entity.

    When a POTUS is elected into office, the FBI doesn't approach them and spill out every file they have on everything. They have probably endless information on all sorts of shit. And there are probably certain procedures the POTUS has to take to get a briefing or access, to classify or declassify anything, etc.


    I'll tell you this though, there is absolutely a huge internal battle going on within the FBI, because there is no way in hell they released that prison cell footage without understanding the meta-data could be inspected. They released that HOPING to get caught. And it went over the heads of Kash and Bongino who are not tech savy individuals.
    To think that a billionaire and democrat donor, with a foundation heavily involved with both the Clinton and Gates foundations on various projects, that a guy like that delivers this kind of information after a public trial about him trafficking a 14 year old and the President doesn't know. I call bullshit, it's literally national security given how sensitive the information is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster View Post
    To think that a billionaire and democrat donor, with a foundation heavily involved with both the Clinton and Gates foundations on various projects, that a guy like that delivers this kind of information after a public trial about him trafficking a 14 year old and the President doesn't know. I call bullshit, it's literally national security given how sensitive the information is.
    Maybe, maybe not. I'm just telling you that every POTUS before Trump can play the "I didn't know" card.

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    Trump doubling and tripling down on this is hilarious, dudes completely lost his base

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    Quote Originally Posted by Off the Court View Post
    Maybe, maybe not. I'm just telling you that every POTUS before Trump can play the "I didn't know" card.
    And you've already set up an excuse to believe him in case he'd do that, it's very telling. With Trump you keep speculating with about how a Jerry Springer producer lawsuit might be real because you read it in a tweet, but with Obama you're almost bragging about how he could get out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster View Post
    And you've already set up an excuse to believe him in case he'd do that, it's very telling. With Trump you keep speculating with about how a Jerry Springer producer lawsuit might be real because you read it in a tweet, but with Obama you're almost bragging about how he could get out of it.
    I'm definitely not "bragging" and anyone involved with a coverup should be locked up IMO. Throw away the key.

    But I have to throw the obvious out there. Because with most of you guys it's like "why did everyone else cover it up?". As though right when they are elected President the FBI approaches them and tells them about everyone Epstein was messing with.

    And with Obama and Biden, neither were implicated, so with both of them it would be snooping around to see who and what happened, and it is entirely feasible that they just had more important shit to do.


    It is also 100% feasible that both knew everything and have kept that knowledge hidden. And if that is shown? Prison.

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    Some in the FBI are in trouble here. I am not sure how it works, or what their protocol is. But if they know there are guilty pedos running around and kept silent? I mean, maybe they can do that under the guise of "it would blow the investigation" or something.

    Someone or multiple in there knows who killed Epstein. Some of them edited footage. And someone in there purposely released edited footage knowing it would quickly be exposed. So there are some in there who want the truth exposed.

    I think what is happening within the FBI, is probably a much more serious ordeal than people realize because everyone is focused on Trump.

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    Biden wasn't implicated but everyone know's dude is a pedo already so no one would be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Off the Court View Post
    I'm definitely not "bragging" and anyone involved with a coverup should be locked up IMO. Throw away the key.

    But I have to throw the obvious out there. Because with most of you guys it's like "why did everyone else cover it up?". As though right when they are elected President the FBI approaches them and tells them about everyone Epstein was messing with.

    And with Obama and Biden, neither were implicated, so with both of them it would be snooping around to see who and what happened, and it is entirely feasible that they just had more important shit to do.


    It is also 100% feasible that both knew everything and have kept that knowledge hidden. And if that is shown? Prison.
    How could Obama not know if he and the Dems now are ready to sacrifice Bill Clinton and want the files released?

    Quote Originally Posted by Off the Court View Post
    I think because Bill Clinton is all over it. There is no denying that Bill has just as much going against him in this ordeal as Trump does. And I am sure he is feeling the heat over it.

    Obama helped campaign for Hillary, is good friends with the Clintons. And I think that neither side has wanted these files released. UNTIL NOW. I think that enough time has passed, and Bill and Hillary are far back in the rear view now, that we have reached a point where the Dems are willing to sacrifice Bill Clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    Biden wasn't implicated but everyone know's dude is a pedo already so no one would be surprised.
    Running around with Epstein? I'd be really surprised if him or Obama were in that mix.

    The only guilt I can imagine with either of them around Epstein is knowingly covering up for Bill. And that one I can see.

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    Default Re: so where are the epstein files?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster View Post
    How could Obama not know if he and the Dems now are ready to sacrifice Bill Clinton and want the files released?
    You did this last time with something else. I am saying either possibility is feasible.

    You even quoted it there.

    "It is also 100% feasible that both knew everything and have kept that knowledge hidden. And if that is shown? Prison."

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    Default Re: so where are the epstein files?

    Quote Originally Posted by Off the Court View Post
    Running around with Epstein? I'd be really surprised if him or Obama were in that mix.

    The only guilt I can imagine with either of them around Epstein is knowingly covering up for Bill. And that one I can see.
    You'd be surprised about BIDEN? Have you seen how he acts around kids? Cmon man stop being so partisan.

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