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    Default Re: The anti-racists are suspiciously silent regarding the racist murder of Iryna Zar

    We really do have a mental illness epidemic in this country. Once you've committed a violent crime, I think you should be mandated to stay in a facility if you're mentally ill, their behavior is just too unpredictable.

    Has it factually been established this was racially motivated? I understand the optics that she was the only white passenger on the train, but until we get confirmation on that, I'd still lean on it being a random crime driven by insanity. He sat behind her for 5 minutes being perfectly normal, then without even talking or touching her abruptly stabbed her 3 times. Imho this crime seemed to have no rhyme or reason to it, it seemed like something he did spur of the moment and was likely hallucinating while doing it. By all means, if it turns out he did this specifically because she was white, I'd have no issue admitting I was wrong.

    The other passengers who literally didn't even attempt to help her and walked away are also the villains of this story, that's arguably the more depressing aspect of this. If I saw someone being stabbed I would've tried to help and call the authorities.

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    Default Re: The anti-racists are suspiciously silent regarding the racist murder of Iryna Zar

    It’d have to be deemed a hate crime for it to be charged federally, so yes they probably have enough evidence to determine it to be racially motivated.

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    Didn't someone post a video to where you could hear him mumbling "got that white girl, got that white girl." If it wasn't racially motivated, then I doubt he'd be saying what race she was. Just speculation on my part though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post


    "DON'T lock them up..."

    "But ALSO, don't let them roam free..."


    You can only pick ONE retard.
    No there is plenty of grey and I clearly said "I do not know the answer".

    If someone is born schizo, they should not auto be locked up. But I do think they should perhaps wear a monitor? Or their meds must be observed and recorded by law. Or perhaps it is based around how often they have "episodes", etc. The ones with violent background locked up.

    I do think it is very fair to say this guy should NOT have been roaming the streets. So something needs to be done there. But the problem is to have real discussion you have to get out trying to score tribal political points where you are just declaring that the issue is that all black people are bad, because that goes no where real fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gates View Post
    No there is plenty of grey and I clearly said "I do not know the answer".

    If someone is born schizo, they should not auto be locked up. But I do think they should perhaps wear a monitor? Or their meds must be observed and recorded by law. Or perhaps it is based around how often they have "episodes", etc. The ones with violent background locked up.

    I do think it is very fair to say this guy should NOT have been roaming the streets. So something needs to be done there. But the problem is to have real discussion you have to get out trying to score tribal political points where you are just declaring that the issue is that all black people are bad, because that goes no where real fast.
    Point to the exact fukking moment I said "all black people are bad". Quote it.

    You fukking lying coward.

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    I love how Bill Gates says this guy shouldn't have been roaming the streets because he's a "schizo"...

    ... and not because he has a proven history of violent crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    Point to the exact fukking moment I said "all black people are bad". Quote it.

    You fukking lying coward.
    You're entire point is racial, it is in the thread title. You want it to be about the fact that he is black, and she is white. But also go take a valium or something. I can tell you're raging and there is no reason for that. Neither myself nor RRR are responsible and even if our thought patterns were the exact same as your own this murder still happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gates View Post
    You're entire point is racial, it is in the thread title. You want it to be about the fact that he is black, and she is white. But also go take a valium or something. I can tell you're raging and there is no reason for that. Neither myself nor RRR are responsible and even if our thought patterns were the exact same as your own this murder still happens.
    Hey genius, it is about that. This black man killed this woman because she was white. After he slit her throat he bragged and said "I got that white girl..."

    So stfu homo. You're wrong. This WAS a racial killing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    Hey genius, it is about that. This black man killed this woman because she was white. After he slit her throat he bragged and said "I got that white girl..."

    So stfu homo. You're wrong. This WAS a racial killing.
    if that's all that was said with regards to race, that's questionable, highly questionable in fact.

    black people refer to white people as white, so yeah...and it's not derogatory in their eyes, because truly it's not. sounds like trump is grasping at straws here since this does not meet the threshold for it being racially motivated.

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    Zarutska*

    At least get her name right ya filthy cretin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    Hey genius, it is about that. This black man killed this woman because she was white. After he slit her throat he bragged and said "I got that white girl..."

    So stfu homo. You're wrong. This WAS a racial killing.
    No it is about schizophrenia not skin color. Anyway, I was correct, you just want to dictate that blacks are evil, and nothing will progress from that. Did you change when someone says the white man is evil? No you get worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckbe View Post
    Zarutska*

    At least get her name right ya filthy cretin
    So much for pretending to care.

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    Default Re: The anti-racists are suspiciously silent regarding the racist murder of Iryna Zar

    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    Hey genius, it is about that. This black man killed this woman because she was white. After he slit her throat he bragged and said "I got that white girl..."

    So stfu homo. You're wrong. This WAS a racial killing.
    I wouldn't even doubt that it was racially motivated, but the whole BLM vs Antiwoke dilemma is caused by a deeply rotten dysfunctional economic state that only provides necessities to the wealthy enough.

    A state that privatized both prisons and health care as for profit institutions, which even allowed for the things that led up to this murder. If the background infos are true this dude was basically funneled into a privately owned institution by the judge who held shares in that very same institution.

    This murder is on more a neoliberal elitist economy - which runs deep in both dems and reps - than colour of skin or any other superficial BS you'd want to point at. Both black and white racists are useful idiots to keep the status quo and upkeep an economic system that failed over 90% of its participants for quite some time now.

    But keep on eating the narrative. Vote to drain the swamp to funnel its mud into the hands of some techbros or whatever the elite of the present is at a given time, while crying communism over achievements other countries long pushed through without turning into the USSR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gates View Post
    No it is about schizophrenia not skin color. Anyway, I was correct, you just want to dictate that blacks are evil, and nothing will progress from that. Did you change when someone says the white man is evil? No you get worse.
    It's about the left actively making laws and working together to keep crazy people and criminals out of jail, while at the same time creating an environment where these crazy and criminals feel empowered in committing violence.

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    Default Re: The anti-racists are suspiciously silent regarding the racist murder of Iryna Zar

    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster View Post
    It's about the left actively making laws and working together to keep crazy people and criminals out of jail, while at the same time creating an environment where these crazy and criminals feel empowered in committing violence.
    This particular murder was not about that at all. No.

    Murder rates and violent crime in general have been falling hard for a long time now. There was an uptick during covid, but now that is way in the rearview and we near all time lows in that area.

    This guy's criminal history is spread out over years and years, through both Dem and Republican governors and POTUS.

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