i may just have to blow my fckn brains out all over the wall if kamala runs again

[bladefd]

don't get me wrong, i'm not at all worried about her winning because as dumb as americans can be as a whole there's just no way we're that bad as a collective. if that ended up being the case though i'm sure we could all work out some mass suicide together but seeing the cackle's face again and her cringe expressions, hearing her voice again and her endless word salads and worn out talking points - i just don't have it in me to have to deal with two years of this woman campaigning.

don't worry guys i don't have any active suicidal plans but if it came to it and i somehow reached the tipping point and i were close enough to a bridge i'd probably run and jump the *uck off because the pain would just be too great.

She won't get past the opening round of the primary. It'll be like 2020 all over again.

[ZenMaster]

It's Newsom all the way, his campaign has already started with the desperate move of trying to act like Trump. Will be a fun 2028, the guy's an impressive liar and talker, similar to Obama.

[diamenz]

newsome running for president would be quite the spectacle. all any opponent would have to do is to point the current state of california.

"you want gavin at the helm of the entire ship after the mess that he's made out of california"???

afterall, the best predictor of future behavior is relevant past behavior.

game over.

[Bill Gates]

3 years away, so much can happen, and so much will happen. Trump could very easily pass away in that time making Vance the POTUS. Russia and Ukraine will have likely ended their long running stale-mate. There will in all likelyhood be a massive correction/recession to this historically over-valued market. Another war could easily start. The political landscape can chage drastically on one major event.

We still have to wait about 2 more years before this conversation is even slightly meaningful.

[crosstin]

The ultimate election for all you idiots will be……

Newsom Vs DeSatis

California vs Florida


Idiots vs idiots and everyone loses.

Trolls might win.

Weather California
Culture California
GDP growth Florida
Employment Florida
Lack of homeless Florida
Health care California
Safer/lack of crime Florida
Education(k-12l Florida
Education (higher) California
Housing both bad
Happiness index equal
Taxes Florida

They look about equal with a slight edge to Florida

[highwhey]

newsome running for president would be quite the spectacle. all any opponent would have to do is to point the current state of california.

"you want gavin at the helm of the entire ship after the mess that he's made out of california"???

afterall, the best predictor of future behavior is relevant past behavior.

game over.

excellent point as usual.

so our options will be:

A.) Governer Newsome who's ran california -- a single state -- into the ground

B.) Trump who ran the entire country into the ground and will be running for a 3rd term unconstitutionally

[Bill Gates]

Weather California
Culture California
GDP growth Florida
Employment Florida
Lack of homeless Florida
Health care California
Safer/lack of crime Florida
Education(k-12l Florida
Education (higher) California
Housing both bad
Happiness index equal
Taxes Florida

They look about equal with a slight edge to Florida

Cali's GDP is like 3x the size of Florida's, growth and employment rates are much less noteworthy than that. I mean, if you're out to get rich you'd want to be in Cali. 4th largest economy in the world.

Florida residents have lower net worth on average AND the median.

Also Florida has a higher murder rate than Cali. You're safer in California.

[Norcaliblunt]

None of y’all are gonna vote independent.

Every single person commenting in this thread is gonna be a good little partisan hack and vote the party their mom and dad voted for.

Guaranteed.

Spare us the same bullshit hack rhetoric already.

[diamenz]

excellent point as usual.

so our options will be:

A.) Governer Newsome who's ran california -- a single state -- into the ground

B.) Trump who ran the entire country into the ground and will be running for a 3rd term unconstitutionally

if that's the way you look at it then pick your poison i guess. my point is i don't understand why democrats continue to shoot themselves in the foot with every candidate they pick. it's almost like they don't want to win.

[crosstin]

Cali's GDP is like 3x the size of Florida's, growth and employment rates are much less noteworthy than that. I mean, if you're out to get rich you'd want to be in Cali. 4th largest economy in the world.

Florida residents have lower net worth on average AND the median.

Also Florida has a higher murder rate than Cali. You're safer in California.

You definitely want to go to Cali to get rich over Florida. No doubt about it. If you have ambition and a plan. No state is going to beat Cali. Poverty rate is about the same in Cali vs Florida but real adjusted poverty rate is much higher in Cali. Wealth disparity obviously Cali.

I don't know what stats you are looking at but murder and violent crime rate is SIGNIFICANTLY higher in Cali than Florida. Florida has a murder rate of 1.4 per 100 2024.. California is 4.3 per 100 in 2024. Significantly more. Violent crime rate is nearly twice as high in Cali vs Florida in 2024 as well. This is particularly puzzling since African Americans commit the most murders but Cali is only 4.5% black and Florida is 15%.

[SATAN]

it's annoying sure but with how quickly this country is being ran into the ground by the current incumbent

I called USA being over years ago when this shit started. It should have been obvious to anyone paying attention. Good luck trying to crawl back out of this mess when it's over. Just remember, people like Patrick XXXL Chewing aka Hate Personified did this to you all....

[Bill Gates]

You definitely want to go to Cali to get rich over Florida. No doubt about it. If you have ambition and a plan. No state is going to beat Cali. Poverty rate is about the same in Cali vs Florida but real adjusted poverty rate is much higher in Cali. Wealth disparity obviously Cali.

I don't know what stats you are looking at but murder and violent crime rate is SIGNIFICANTLY higher in Cali than Florida. Florida has a murder rate of 1.4 per 100 2024.. California is 4.3 per 100 in 2024. Significantly more. Violent crime rate is nearly twice as high in Cali vs Florida in 2024 as well. This is particularly puzzling since African Americans commit the most murders but Cali is only 4.5% black and Florida is 15%.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeaut...by_state_2023/



here is 2023

Wikipedia only goes to 2023 as well, it looks like 2024 is still being sorted through.


Here is what AI says -

In recent years, California's murder rate has generally been lower than Florida's, though rates fluctuate annually and are influenced by various factors. For instance, in 2022, the FBI reported a murder rate of 5.7 per 100,000 for California, while Florida's rate was 5.0 per 100,000. However, California's rate was 4.3 per 100,000 in 2024, while Florida's rate was 5.2 per 100,000 in 2018.