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    Default Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG

    And other guys have RPG, SPG, BPG and efficiency - Lebron is nowhere near the best at anything!!

    Who cares about playing at a lower level for longer (longevity) - the lower level/lower averages = inferior

    MJ and Jokic lead the all-time PER, BPM, WS/48, and VORP, while Lebron also trails in FT%, SPG, BPG, OREB & TO's (per game), and ORTG (pts produced per possession) - he also has the most missed shots and TO's ever, yet no one talks about these stats that offset his all-time points lead

    It's bs.. Given the enormous help that lebron's ball-dominant, spot-up role-imposing skillset needs (can't win with normal roster of 1 franchise player), and given his many horrible losses despite all-star teammates and preseason favorites, he isn't a top 10 all-time player - the opinion of a few dozen journalism majors (media awards) mean exactly nothing in a top 10 debate... The only thing that matters is your win frequency and how much help you needed - these things are in turn based on the level of chemistry and teammate elevation/great fits that your skillset produces.. Unfortunately, Lebron's skillset has a long list of bad fits and teammate craterings, hence his horrific win rate and need for more help
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    Default Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG



    Nothing personal 3ball, just trying to liven things up around this deada$$ place.

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    Default Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG

    LeBron leads Kobe in PPG, APG, RPG, SPG, BPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP & ORTG, so he does have all the stats on him.

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    Default Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG

    op, you're the only one still talking about bron.

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    Default Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG

    Quote Originally Posted by BarberSchool View Post


    Nothing personal 3ball, just trying to liven things up around this deada$$ place.

    It would've been better if you could've just explained why people say Lebron has all the stats when he doesn't have anything - he's nowhere near #1 in PPG, RPG, APG, SPG, BPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP, efficiency and many more... All he has is bs longevity points, which is offset by the most TO's ever, and most missed shots ever

    So he's 100% fraud - bet your money on him to lose and you'll get rich

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    Default Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG

    Move on OP. You're obsessed

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    Default Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    LeBron leads Kobe in PPG, APG, RPG, SPG, BPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP & ORTG, so he does have all the stats on him.

    Stats is only 1 half of it for 1st options (who dictate brand of ball, chemistry and the level of team offense)

    So Kobe leads the other half of things (winning, scoring versatility/fits, chemistry, teammate elevation, brand of ball, winning more with less, toughness, leadership, setting an example, clutch efficiency, fearlessness (which permeates the team, so teammates are more clutch), loyalty, and much more - basically everything except stats...

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    Default Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG

    Bruh, why is everyone all of a sudden doing Mr. Pink memes around here the moment avatars are disabled? He was my avatar.

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    Default Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    Bruh, why is everyone all of a sudden doing Mr. Pink memes around here the moment avatars are disabled? He was my avatar.
    Who else posted Mr. Pink sh!t ? I like em already.

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    Default Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    It would've been better if you could've just explained why people say Lebron has all the stats when he doesn't have anything - he's nowhere near #1 in PPG, RPG, APG, SPG, BPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP, efficiency and many more... All he has is bs longevity points, which is offset by the most TO's ever, and most missed shots ever

    So he's 100% fraud - bet your money on him to lose and you'll get rich
    would have been much better, very true. But I’m too stoned to do all that.

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    Default Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG

    Quote Originally Posted by BarberSchool View Post
    would have been much better, very true. But I’m too stoned to do all that.

    That's fair

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    Default Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG

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    I've mathematically solved Lebron's game:

    It's statistical fact that Lebron's skillset increases everyone's assisted buckets/spot-up role, which craters their assists and causes low assist teams over time - this is all statistical fact... We can confirm that this is a flaw because every series loss of Lebron's playoff career shows deficits in team assists... Since Lebron's assist-lowering effect is the catalyst in every loss, the team must literally overcome this affliction to win (have more assists than the other team) - the TEAM must overcome Lebron's weakness to win.

    Taking this a step further, if team assists is a proxy for teamwork, then Lebron essentially needs better teamwork than the opponent to win a playoff series - aka he can't carry the load and win with less teamwork - he needs his team.. Otoh, MJ carried the load and won with less teamwork/team assists all the time, while also winning with less scoring help (carrying the scoring load, aka defeating max defensive attention).

    Carry on

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    Default Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    LeBron leads Kobe in PPG, APG, RPG, SPG, BPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP & ORTG, so he does have all the stats on him.
    You got me. :confused: Lebron should be ranked higher than #15 of all time Kobe.

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