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Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG
And other guys have RPG, SPG, BPG and efficiency - Lebron is nowhere near the best at anything!!
Who cares about playing at a lower level for longer (longevity) - the lower level/lower averages = inferior
MJ and Jokic lead the all-time PER, BPM, WS/48, and VORP, while Lebron also trails in FT%, SPG, BPG, OREB & TO's (per game), and ORTG (pts produced per possession) - he also has the most missed shots and TO's ever, yet no one talks about these stats that offset his all-time points lead
It's bs.. Given the enormous help that lebron's ball-dominant, spot-up role-imposing skillset needs (can't win with normal roster of 1 franchise player), and given his many horrible losses despite all-star teammates and preseason favorites, he isn't a top 10 all-time player - the opinion of a few dozen journalism majors (media awards) mean exactly nothing in a top 10 debate... The only thing that matters is your win frequency and how much help you needed - these things are in turn based on the level of chemistry and teammate elevation/great fits that your skillset produces.. Unfortunately, Lebron's skillset has a long list of bad fits and teammate craterings, hence his horrific win rate and need for more help
Last edited by 3ba11; Today at 12:01 AM.
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Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG
Nothing personal 3ball, just trying to liven things up around this deada$$ place.
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Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG
LeBron leads Kobe in PPG, APG, RPG, SPG, BPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP & ORTG, so he does have all the stats on him.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG
op, you're the only one still talking about bron.
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Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG
 Originally Posted by BarberSchool
Nothing personal 3ball, just trying to liven things up around this deada$$ place.
It would've been better if you could've just explained why people say Lebron has all the stats when he doesn't have anything - he's nowhere near #1 in PPG, RPG, APG, SPG, BPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP, efficiency and many more... All he has is bs longevity points, which is offset by the most TO's ever, and most missed shots ever
So he's 100% fraud - bet your money on him to lose and you'll get rich
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Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG
Move on OP. You're obsessed
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Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG
 Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
LeBron leads Kobe in PPG, APG, RPG, SPG, BPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP & ORTG, so he does have all the stats on him.
Stats is only 1 half of it for 1st options (who dictate brand of ball, chemistry and the level of team offense)
So Kobe leads the other half of things (winning, scoring versatility/fits, chemistry, teammate elevation, brand of ball, winning more with less, toughness, leadership, setting an example, clutch efficiency, fearlessness (which permeates the team, so teammates are more clutch), loyalty, and much more - basically everything except stats...
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG
Bruh, why is everyone all of a sudden doing Mr. Pink memes around here the moment avatars are disabled? He was my avatar.
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Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG
 Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Bruh, why is everyone all of a sudden doing Mr. Pink memes around here the moment avatars are disabled? He was my avatar.
Who else posted Mr. Pink sh!t ? I like em already.
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Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG
 Originally Posted by 3ba11
It would've been better if you could've just explained why people say Lebron has all the stats when he doesn't have anything - he's nowhere near #1 in PPG, RPG, APG, SPG, BPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP, efficiency and many more... All he has is bs longevity points, which is offset by the most TO's ever, and most missed shots ever
So he's 100% fraud - bet your money on him to lose and you'll get rich
would have been much better, very true. But I’m too stoned to do all that.
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Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG
 Originally Posted by BarberSchool
would have been much better, very true. But I’m too stoned to do all that.
That's fair
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG
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Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG
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I've mathematically solved Lebron's game:
It's statistical fact that Lebron's skillset increases everyone's assisted buckets/spot-up role, which craters their assists and causes low assist teams over time - this is all statistical fact... We can confirm that this is a flaw because every series loss of Lebron's playoff career shows deficits in team assists... Since Lebron's assist-lowering effect is the catalyst in every loss, the team must literally overcome this affliction to win (have more assists than the other team) - the TEAM must overcome Lebron's weakness to win.
Taking this a step further, if team assists is a proxy for teamwork, then Lebron essentially needs better teamwork than the opponent to win a playoff series - aka he can't carry the load and win with less teamwork - he needs his team.. Otoh, MJ carried the load and won with less teamwork/team assists all the time, while also winning with less scoring help (carrying the scoring load, aka defeating max defensive attention).
Carry on
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Re: Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG
 Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
LeBron leads Kobe in PPG, APG, RPG, SPG, BPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP & ORTG, so he does have all the stats on him.
You got me. :confused: Lebron should be ranked higher than #15 of all time Kobe.
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