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Re: My suggestion for the Warriors to turn it around. What's yours?
 Originally Posted by warriorfan
I’m glad Jimmy is stepping up and holding people accountable . I don’t want to jump to conclusions but it seems like the beginning of the season honeymoon period the Warriors and Kuminga had is all but over. I wonder if any of the toxicity surrounding that never ending drama is seeping through. But even besides all of that is the obvious points that the Warriors are insanely old and they aren’t very talented and they have a poor roster construction in terms of fit.
I see this all as a culmination of three things off the top of my head.
For one all dynasties end ugly and there is a substantial rebuild period after. Then there is the poor decision by the front office to try to build “two timelines” where they swung big on Wiseman and Kuminga and whiffed twice. Third is the new CBA really ****ed the Warriors. Not complaining because they got 4 titles but it was kinda insane to just come out of nowhere and enforce the new CBA out of the blue. The Warriors built their team and their future based on one set of rules then all the apron stuff drops. There wasn’t really much they could do at that point. Also the CBA thing kind of voids reason two where Kuminga and Wiseman hit and turn out to be good, I don’t think the Warriors would able to resign them when the time comes.
FYI- thought I'd give some context (courtesy of ChatGPT).
The NBA’s new CBA (starting 2023–24) added extremely harsh penalties for teams that go way over the luxury tax — especially big-spending dynasties like Golden State.
Key point:
Under the old rules, the Warriors could spend huge amounts and keep their roster together because ownership was willing to pay the tax.
Under the new second-apron rules, that becomes almost impossible.
Why the new CBA hurts the Warriors specifically
Golden State was the highest-spending team in NBA history — over $300M per year in salary + tax.
The league responded by creating a system to stop teams from “buying continuity forever.”
Here’s what the second apron prevents:
❌ 1. No mid-level exception (MLE)
Warriors used to get decent role players with this tool.
Now it’s removed — so no more Otto Porter, Donte DiVincenzo, GP2-type additions.
❌ 2. They cannot aggregate salaries in trades (huge deal)
Meaning:
You can’t take two mid-sized contracts and combine them to acquire a bigger player.
So you can’t package, for example:
Wiggins + Moody + GP2
to get a star.
This kills their ability to make major upgrades.
❌ 3. You can’t trade future first-round picks 7 years out
Even more restrictions on their draft assets.
❌ 4. You can’t sign buyout players
No more adding veterans cheaply after the trade deadline.
❌ 5. Harder to keep your own young players
Because each raises your payroll dramatically, pushing you deeper into the second apron.
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Re: My suggestion for the Warriors to turn it around. What's yours?
 Originally Posted by beasted
Wow, 100 % to this: "We don't box out. We don't go with the scouting report. We let anybody do whatever they want. Open shots. Get into the paint. Free throws. It's just sad."
Will be reading the article. Somebody gets it.
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Re: My suggestion for the Warriors to turn it around. What's yours?
 Originally Posted by bdonovan
Do you think he's capable of it? He was a lead scorer on a team where the next best option was Bam Adebayo (or Tyler Herro). I've watched his game on and off over the years and on the Warriors and I still don't quite understand it. Mid-range and the occasional drive and go to the line.
But I do agree he needs to step up more. If he can get more help on D instead of having to cover for everytime Podziemiski's man beats him off the dribble, he might have more gas in the tank for offense.
No, I don't. I watched Butler a lot last year prior to the trade and after. He is incapable of playing at a high level every night. If he tries, he'll fall apart quickly.
He is at the age where he needs to coast. But, Warriors need significant defensive help and a true 2nd option.
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Re: My suggestion for the Warriors to turn it around. What's yours?
 Originally Posted by bdonovan
FYI- thought I'd give some context (courtesy of ChatGPT).
The NBA’s new CBA (starting 2023–24) added extremely harsh penalties for teams that go way over the luxury tax — especially big-spending dynasties like Golden State.
�� Key point:
Under the old rules, the Warriors could spend huge amounts and keep their roster together because ownership was willing to pay the tax.
Under the new second-apron rules, that becomes almost impossible.
�� Why the new CBA hurts the Warriors specifically
Golden State was the highest-spending team in NBA history — over $300M per year in salary + tax.
The league responded by creating a system to stop teams from “buying continuity forever.”
Here’s what the second apron prevents:
❌ 1. No mid-level exception (MLE)
Warriors used to get decent role players with this tool.
Now it’s removed — so no more Otto Porter, Donte DiVincenzo, GP2-type additions.
❌ 2. They cannot aggregate salaries in trades (huge deal)
Meaning:
You can’t take two mid-sized contracts and combine them to acquire a bigger player.
So you can’t package, for example:
Wiggins + Moody + GP2
to get a star.
This kills their ability to make major upgrades.
❌ 3. You can’t trade future first-round picks 7 years out
Even more restrictions on their draft assets.
❌ 4. You can’t sign buyout players
No more adding veterans cheaply after the trade deadline.
❌ 5. Harder to keep your own young players
Because each raises your payroll dramatically, pushing you deeper into the second apron.
Yeah. Sounds about right. I was looking into that stuff a decent amount when it happened.
I guess I’m not in the know but it seemingly came out of nowhere. I guess guys in the league knew something was coming but even if they have a full years time of a heads up….its not enough. Warriors had a long term plan going on and the CBA changes dropped a bomb on the whole thing.
 Originally Posted by beasted
No, I don't. I watched Butler a lot last year prior to the trade and after. He is incapable of playing at a high level every night. If he tries, he'll fall apart quickly.
He is at the age where he needs to coast. But, Warriors need significant defensive help and a true 2nd option.
He played most of the games in the final stretch during the big playoff push. Played hard and played well too. Any Jimmy struggles is mainly due to the team being a lot more dysfunctional than most will admit.
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Re: My suggestion for the Warriors to turn it around. What's yours?
Trade Curry to the Hornets, at the same time he signs with Jordan brand !
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