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  1. #16
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    Default Re: Last night showed how Lebron can't defeat max defensive attention (carry scoring

    Crazy the similarities between Curry and MJ, they both won their 1st title beating banged up opponents in the finals (1991 & 2015) thanks for pointing that out OP.

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    Default Re: Last night showed how Lebron can't defeat max defensive attention (carry scoring

    Quote Originally Posted by sdot_thadon View Post
    Crazy the similarities between Curry and MJ, they both won their 1st title beating banged up opponents in the finals (1991 & 2015) thanks for pointing that out OP.
    Pippen also outscored Ewing, Isiah AND Magic in that title run. His 2nd option was out here outscoring HOF's/3 members of the OG top 50 players list.

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    Default Re: Last night showed how Lebron can't defeat max defensive attention (carry scoring

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    Pippen also outscored Ewing, Isiah AND Magic in that title run. His 2nd option was out here outscoring HOF's/3 members of the OG top 50 players list.

    91' was Pippen's only viable playoff run, since X-Man destroyed him in 92' and he stunk from 88-90' and 99-03', while averaging 17 on 41% for the 96-98' Playoffs..

    Then he shot 46.9% true shooting in the 93' Finals and was destroyed by Dominique in the 1st Round.

    So again, 91' was pippen's only viable run and we're talking 20 ppg on good efficiency - so nothing earth-shattering like Kyrie outplaying the league MVP, or AD destroying Jokic,, or Wade destroying Dirk - Lebron is the only guy in history that got 27 ppg from his sidekick.. there might be 1 exception to this but otherwise lebron's help is unparalleled

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    Default Re: Last night showed how Lebron can't defeat max defensive attention (carry scoring

    91-98 Pippen averaged more PPG than Magic did in their dynasty playoff runs (1980-1988). Pippen also has 6 rings to Magic's 5.

    According to OP, Prime Pippen is better than Prime Magic.

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    Default Re: Last night showed how Lebron can't defeat max defensive attention (carry scoring

    All this dude does is thinking about the next thing to say about LeBron. He wants attention and we are allowing this.

    LebRon stans stop being so sensitive and insecure.

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    Default Re: Last night showed how Lebron can't defeat max defensive attention (carry scoring

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Lebron's other sidekick (Kyrie) was equal-scoring partner for the 16' Playoff run and outplayed the MVP in the Finals.. This constitutes "getting carried" compared to the help Jordan or Curry got from their teammates.
    Steph was arguably outplayed by his teammates in the finals; he only won one FVMP out of 4 finals.

    LeBron scored the highest amount of PPG in every one of his finals he's appeared in. He outscored Kyrie in that series. Curry was outscored in both finals wins with Durant on the team by Durant.

    I'm only bringing this up because you used it in your argument.

    How do you define elite producers? Durant or Pippen, absolutely legendary players, as a second option - clearly elite.

    Teams are more than two people. If you look at the top 3, the third option for MJ and Curry were defensive superstars- Rodman and Green. James won with third option being Bosh or Kevin Love.

    Unlike Curry, we can see clearly what happened to these supposedly elite players LeBron played with after he left. When LeBron left the heat, Wade and Bosh stayed and were 37-45. Quite a drop off.

    I'm sure there will be tons of "buts" to this, but the simple reality is LeBron's impact on the team is significant, and if his teammates were as good as you say they were, they would have performed.

    When Jordan left the Bulls in 93-94, the Bulls were 55-27 without him. Now that's an elite supporting unit.

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    Default Re: Last night showed how Lebron can't defeat max defensive attention (carry scoring

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    91' was Pippen's only viable playoff run, since X-Man destroyed him in 92' and he stunk from 88-90' and 99-03', while averaging 17 on 41% for the 96-98' Playoffs..

    Then he shot 46.9% true shooting in the 93' Finals and was destroyed by Dominique in the 1st Round.

    So again, 91' was pippen's only viable run and we're talking 20 ppg on good efficiency - so nothing earth-shattering like Kyrie outplaying the league MVP, or AD destroying Jokic,, or Wade destroying Dirk - Lebron is the only guy in history that got 27 ppg from his sidekick.. there might be 1 exception to this but otherwise lebron's help is unparalleled
    But you've said 100X and quite adamant that LeBron makes his teammates worse. The constant lies is proof that you know he's the GOAT.

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    Default Re: Last night showed how Lebron can't defeat max defensive attention (carry scoring

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Lebron is the only guy in history that got 27 ppg from his sidekick.. there might be 1 exception to this but otherwise lebron's help is unparalleled
    This just may be the biggest lie you've ever tried to tell.

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