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The Paterfamilias
Re: If Cavs finish with 67-68 wins but fail to win the title..
Originally Posted by Mikaiel
Cavs record against the 5 best defensive teams in the league according to defensive ratings :
Boston : 1-2
Orlando : 1-1
San Antonio : 1-0
Houston : 1-1
Total : 4-4
Cleveland is the other one in top 5, if you count No.6 (the Lakers), they're 4-6.
If you use points against as a gauge, the other Top 5 teams are Boston, SA, NO, Houston, and Detroit. The Lakers are 17th on that list. Either way, it is pretty clear that this person is full of sh!t.
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Unknown Legend
Re: If Cavs finish with 67-68 wins but fail to win the title..
If the cavs don't make it past the 2nd round it's considered a choke
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Kobe is the assassin
Re: If Cavs finish with 67-68 wins but fail to win the title..
Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
If you use points against as a gauge, the other Top 5 teams are Boston, SA, NO, Houston, and Detroit. The Lakers are 17th on that list. Either way, it is pretty clear that this person is full of sh!t.
So the cavs are 4-6 against the top 6 defensive rated teams of the league. OMG my bad i said they were 3-6, that's a great improvement they are 4-6!!!! wow congratulations you're the only one that's completely full of **** here.
Last edited by KobeRules24; 03-25-2009 at 05:01 PM.
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Shoot it Boobie !!!
Re: If Cavs finish with 67-68 wins but fail to win the title..
Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
If you use points against as a gauge, the other Top 5 teams are Boston, SA, NO, Houston, and Detroit. The Lakers are 17th on that list. Either way, it is pretty clear that this person is full of sh!t.
Point allowed per game is a deceiving stat, it doesn't account for pace. The Lakers are a high pace team so of course they allow more points.
Maybe his definition of defensive teams were best opposing team FG% ?
Boston : 1-2
Orlando : 1-1
Denver : 2-0
Houston : 1-1
Hornets : 1-1
Total : 6-5.
Well, guess not. Yeah, he's full of sh!t
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Shoot it Boobie !!!
Re: If Cavs finish with 67-68 wins but fail to win the title..
Originally Posted by KobeRules24
So the cavs are 4-6 against the top 5 defensive teams of the league. OMG my bad i said they were 3-6, that's a great improvement they are 4-6!!!! wow congratulations you're the only one that's completely full of **** here.
4-6 with 2 home games and 1 away game left to play against those teams. And with the way we've been playing at home, we could very well be 7-6 or 6-7 at the end of the season. Playing .500 ball against the other elite teams in the league is nothing to be ashamed of.
Last edited by Mikaiel; 03-25-2009 at 05:08 PM.
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The Paterfamilias
Re: If Cavs finish with 67-68 wins but fail to win the title..
Originally Posted by KobeRules24
So the cavs are 4-6 against the top 6 defensive rated teams of the league. OMG my bad i said they were 3-6, that's a great improvement they are 4-6!!!! wow congratulations you're the only one that's completely full of **** here.
Too bad you needed a fellow Cavalier fan to come in this thread and make your argument for you, being that you are incapable of intellectual discussion. Either way, your numbers were wrong.
...and, yes... When you are talking about a sample size of just 10 games, one win does make for a 'great improvement.'
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Re: If Cavs finish with 67-68 wins but fail to win the title..
Originally Posted by Fatal9
at those who think Cavs are getting out of the second round. What in Lebron's recent playoff history suggests that he will show up this time?
Cavs are the best team at beating teams they are supposed to beat (lottery, borderline/low seeded playoff teams), no realistic fan expects them to win against a healthy Magic or Celtics.
Agreed.
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Kobe is the assassin
Re: If Cavs finish with 67-68 wins but fail to win the title..
Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
Too bad you needed a fellow Cavalier fan to come in this thread and make your argument for you, being that you are incapable of intellectual discussion. Either way, your numbers were wrong.
...and, yes... When you are talking about a sample size of just 10 games, one win does make for a 'great improvement.'
They are still under .500 against great teams, you fail again. good luck beating the celtics or lakers in a 7 game series.
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Cavs Fan ® 1997
Re: If Cavs finish with 67-68 wins but fail to win the title..
Originally Posted by All Net
Will people considering this a choke? I don't see how..alot of people are saying the Lakers will beat them in the finals if they were to meet...Lakers may well finish with close to the amount of wins as the Cavs but to win 67-68 wins and not win the title? would you see this as a failure even though alot here don't think the Cavs can beat L.A?
If people dislike the Cavaliers or dislike LeBron James they will say it's a choke. These are probably the same people who laughed at people saying they were going to be a 60+ winning team at the beginning of the season.
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03-25-2009, 05:53 PM
#100
17 NBA Championships
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03-25-2009, 06:31 PM
#101
Re: If Cavs finish with 67-68 wins but fail to win the title..
Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
The Cavs are actually 6-5 against the other five best defensive teams in the league (according to the numbers).
Boston
L 90-85
W 98-83
L 105-94
San Antonio
W 97-86
New Orleans
L 104-92
W 92-78
Houston
W 99-90
L 93-74
Detroit
L 96-89
W 90-80
W 99-78
Do you just make up random numbers that you pull out of your @ss? Aren't there enough Kobe threads to occupy your attention on this board?
LOL at a sub .500 Detroit team, Spurs without Duncan/Ginobili being used to beef up the record.
They are 3-6 against the Lakers, Celtics, Rockets and Magic; the four teams with the best record outside of Cavs. If you want to include the petty win against the Spurs, fine, they are 4-6 which is still pretty miserable for a championship or bust type of team. It's a shame they face a series of lottery bound teams (in the west) for the first two rounds, which really shows making the ECF isn't much of an accomplishment at all.
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03-25-2009, 06:53 PM
#102
Wait and See
Re: If Cavs finish with 67-68 wins but fail to win the title..
Originally Posted by Fatal9
LOL at a sub .500 Detroit team, Spurs without Duncan/Ginobili being used to beef up the record.
They are 3-6 against the Lakers, Celtics, Rockets and Magic; the four teams with the best record outside of Cavs. If you want to include the petty win against the Spurs, fine, they are 4-6 which is still pretty miserable for a championship or bust type of team. It's a shame they face a series of lottery bound teams (in the west) for the first two rounds, which really shows making the ECF isn't much of an accomplishment at all.
Oh so now you are changing the criteria? So it went from best defensive to best? Wow you Kobe fans are stupid. Guess what the Lakers have a worse record than the Cavs. I bet that just rubs the sand all through your ****** wrong doesn't it?
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03-25-2009, 06:57 PM
#103
Kobe is the assassin
Re: If Cavs finish with 67-68 wins but fail to win the title..
Originally Posted by lilgodfather1
Oh so now you are changing the criteria? So it went from best defensive to best? Wow you Kobe fans are stupid. Guess what the Lakers have a worse record than the Cavs. I bet that just rubs the sand all through your ****** wrong doesn't it?
no, it doesn't. lakers are a better team and that is easy to prove, better record against the best teams. The cavs hopes for a title will be broken, they're not good enough to compete with the lakers.
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03-25-2009, 07:05 PM
#104
Good college starter
Re: If Cavs finish with 67-68 wins but fail to win the title..
In my opinion
Lakers 25%
Cavs 25%
Celtics 20%
Spurs 18%
Magic 10%
Everyone else 2%
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03-25-2009, 09:38 PM
#105
Wait and See
Re: If Cavs finish with 67-68 wins but fail to win the title..
Originally Posted by KobeRules24
no, it doesn't. lakers are a better team and that is easy to prove, better record against the best teams. The cavs hopes for a title will be broken, they're not good enough to compete with the lakers.
There is no guarantee that the Lakers or Cavs make the finals. If James gets hurt then the Cavs will not, and if Pau gets hurt then the Lakers will not either. Just hope for good health and hope that your team can beat the Cavs. Because there is not guarantee.
And I can prove that the cavs are a better team. Who has more wins?
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