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02-19-2024, 06:18 PM
#151
NBA Superstar
Re: 2024 NBA All-Star Weekend Events Discussion
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Jasper
dame 3 point champ
Dame MVP all-star game
only other player to do it : MJ
MJ never won a 3 point contest...
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02-19-2024, 06:42 PM
#152
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2024 NBA All-Star Weekend Events Discussion
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green
They need to sufficiently incentivize defense. I don't know how you do that with a bunch of max players in an exhibition game but that's the problem they have to address. If they aren't already doing this then pay the winning team a million per player. Treat the practice like a real practice.
But here’s the uncomfortable truth: In this season in which the league’s inaugural In-Season Tournament paid players of the winning team $500,000 apiece, that may be the only way to fix this problem. This, apparently, is the pay-for-play era. Even if the league already has players topping the $50 million mark in annual salary and a seven-figure minimum ($1.1 million). As one league source shared afterward, when the players had talked privately about why they’d chosen this tough-to-watch style of play, the IST set the kind of precedent that won’t be forgotten anytime soon.
– via The Athletic
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02-19-2024, 06:58 PM
#153
Please clap.
Re: 2024 NBA All-Star Weekend Events Discussion
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by L.Kizzle
They play harder in the Drew League.
They play harder in the YMCA.
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02-19-2024, 07:08 PM
#154
NBA Superstar
Re: 2024 NBA All-Star Weekend Events Discussion
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
The IST generates revenue over the course of multiple games, on top of which only the winning team gets $500,000k, and thats mainly a big deal to the guys on lower end contracts.
I dont think the league will see a value proposition in paying BOTH teams at LEAST $500k to play a single game, while also increasing the odds a superstar player gets hurt. Not only is the amount unlikely to be enough to make the players care, but the game just doesnt generate the kind of revenue to justify that from the league’s perspective either (as far as I’m aware).
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02-19-2024, 07:10 PM
#155
NBA rookie of the year
Re: 2024 NBA All-Star Weekend Events Discussion
Not a great weekend for Silver.
1. He continued to look & sound 1,000% like an effeminate alien driving a human corpse, who shouldn’t be in charge of a league of professional basketball players. All his public appearances continue to do is embarrass him, and help to further entrench and confirm the wide assortment of anti-Zionist conspiracy theories about Jews, with every additional moment they see Silver speak and try to seem human.
2. 4 dunk contest contestants (should be 16, 1 dunk each round). McClung didn’t do anything more exciting or dope than last year. Jaime Jacquez in the dunk contest REEKS of the worst kind of race-based pandering in marketing. Anyone who knows anything about dunking knows he shouldn’t be there.
3. Ionescu didn’t win, but did very well from men’s distance. However, her personality and looks are simply so lesbian and unsexy and boring that all of her efforts still will not increase any type of viewership for the WNBA. Women will never care, and men won’t either unless they’re at least half fine. The league is currently maybe less than 5% fine.
4. Game was an absolutely embarrassing, low energy, lazy, Sunday morning scrimmage.
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02-20-2024, 08:05 AM
#156
Re: 2024 NBA All-Star Weekend Events Discussion
They should cancel the whole All Star Weekend.
1. As an European, i knew not even one of those Celebrities in the Celebrity Game. For me it was watching a bunch of unknown and uninteresting People playing bad Basketball.
2. The Skills Contest was a chaotic and messed up running around and throwing Balls in an uncontrollable fashion. The Passing Hole was so big that my Grandmother could have hit it with a Blindfold. I don´t know what they mean with "Skill".
3. The 3 Point Contest was nice to watch but concluded to an absurd contest when after the Contest Steph Curry hit more than any Participants in his Duel against the female Player from the WNBA
4. The Dunk contest was boring like 90% of the Times in the last 20 years.
5. The All Star Game was a Disgrace for this Sport and a shame for the NBA.
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02-21-2024, 09:44 AM
#157
Euros rule NBA, UMAD?
Re: 2024 NBA All-Star Weekend Events Discussion
- replace skills contest with 1 on 1
- open up the dunk contest to professional non-NBAers. Limit the judges to past contest winners
- USA vs World all-star game. Move the time up a few hours
- Cap the number of 3s to like...25 attempts I guess. You want to keep shooting from distance after that? No problem, you only getting 1 point. Not 2. 1. Or go even more radical and make dunks and layups worth 3 and the 3 point distance shots worth 2. Actually make the paint something to defend instead of a ****ing layup line.
Last edited by Phoenix; 02-21-2024 at 09:47 AM.
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02-21-2024, 10:18 AM
#158
Re: 2024 NBA All-Star Weekend Events Discussion
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by TJ44
They should cancel the whole All Star Weekend.
1. As an European, i knew not even one of those Celebrities in the Celebrity Game.
Yeah, but you probably don't realize that the african-american community view the All Star Game as a sort of holiday of sorts, a "Black Thanksgiving"
"Considering that the culture of basketball in a predominantly black league like the NBA is so strongly connected to African American culture, the NBA All-Star weekend has turned into a celebration of African American culture by extension,
This kind of racist thinking is what ruined the NBA.
Silver allowed racists to convince him that the NBA and basketball was only black and that having any demands of players in the NBA was thus the same as being racist.
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02-21-2024, 02:36 PM
#159
NBA Superstar
Re: 2024 NBA All-Star Weekend Events Discussion
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Phoenix
- USA vs World all-star game. Move the time up a few
Pointless now. The International Team would be Jokic, Embiid, Giannis, Shai, and Luka.
USA wouldnt even be competitive if the Internationals actually play hard. The only thing that could balance it out for the Americans is a prime LeHercules, but he’s 39 now and cant take on the world by himself anymore.
USA would get embarrassed.
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02-21-2024, 02:42 PM
#160
I rule the local playground
Re: 2024 NBA All-Star Weekend Events Discussion
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Phoenix
- replace skills contest with 1 on 1
- open up the dunk contest to professional non-NBAers. Limit the judges to past contest winners
- USA vs World all-star game. Move the time up a few hours
- Cap the number of 3s to like...25 attempts I guess. You want to keep shooting from distance after that? No problem, you only getting 1 point. Not 2. 1. Or go even more radical and make dunks and layups worth 3 and the 3 point distance shots worth 2. Actually make the paint something to defend instead of a ****ing layup line.
Stars won't do it so no-one will care.
They've done this before outside the NBA. No-one cares. It's not the dunks that matter, it's the players performing them. Without superstars and narratives, its boring and tedious.
Won't make any difference. It will be the same shitty play with different teams.
Makes a mockery of the game and something even more approaching a shootaround. Plus the ASG is full of uncontested dunks with wide open lanes. There will just be even more of them.
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02-21-2024, 08:37 PM
#161
Euros rule NBA, UMAD?
Re: 2024 NBA All-Star Weekend Events Discussion
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by FultzNationRISE
Pointless now. The International Team would be Jokic, Embiid, Giannis, Shai, and Luka.
USA wouldnt even be competitive if the Internationals actually play hard. The only thing that could balance it out for the Americans is a prime LeHercules, but he’s 39 now and cant take on the world by himself anymore.
USA would get embarrassed.
The US can still field KD, Steph, Lebron, Kawhi, Dame, Tatum, Booker, AD, Ant-man, Halburton, PG13, KAT, Mitchell, Kyrie. And Embiid could suit up for the US for all we know? The very top end may be International-centric but USA could still field a deeper 12 man roster of talent with the higher number of 2nd and 3rd tier stars.
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02-21-2024, 08:46 PM
#162
NBA Superstar
Re: 2024 NBA All-Star Weekend Events Discussion
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Phoenix
The US can still field KD, Steph, Lebron, Kawhi, Dame, Tatum, Booker, AD, Ant-man, Halburton, PG13, KAT, Mitchell, Kyrie. And Embiid could suit up for the US for all we know? The very top end may be International-centric but USA could still field a deeper 12 man roster of talent with the higher number of 2nd and 3rd tier stars.
Im not really counting guys like Lebron, KD, Steph and Kawhi when it comes to “going forward.” Sure theyd still balance the USA out for the next year or two, but thats it.
When you talk about the under-30 lineups, Internationals have a supreme starting 5, and a very strong bench to boot with Zingis, Sabonis, Siakam, Lauri, J Murray.
Itd prob be ideal for balance to make it “America” (US + Canada) so you can take Shai and Murray off the internationals.
If you include Canada as International it’s just really really bad.
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02-21-2024, 09:37 PM
#163
Bitch Hands
Re: 2024 NBA All-Star Weekend Events Discussion
Two ideas anyone with a brain would love:
Dunk contest has to become a poster contest, dunk on a 7ft beast defender.
Three point contest should be with some kind of arm or stick in the face of the shooter
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02-21-2024, 10:21 PM
#164
Euros rule NBA, UMAD?
Re: 2024 NBA All-Star Weekend Events Discussion
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by FultzNationRISE
Im not really counting guys like Lebron, KD, Steph and Kawhi when it comes to “going forward.” Sure theyd still balance the USA out for the next year or two, but thats it.
When you talk about the under-30 lineups, Internationals have a supreme starting 5, and a very strong bench to boot with Zingis, Sabonis, Siakam, Lauri, J Murray.
Itd prob be ideal for balance to make it “America” (US + Canada) so you can take Shai and Murray off the internationals.
If you include Canada as International it’s just really really bad.
Yeah that's a fair point, when the millennial American stars are gone in a few years that will widen the gap. Assuming Wemby pans out its even worse.
I dont know what the solution is, but what we saw last weekend will continue to worsen the brand and Silver very clearly doesn't have the cajones his predecessor did.
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02-21-2024, 10:40 PM
#165
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2024 NBA All-Star Weekend Events Discussion
why play in the all-star game if you're not able to play before or after?
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