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    Default Re: AD is shedding light on Kareem's career & ranking, imo (new all-time rankings ins

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    pippen was never talked about and round_liar is misrepresenting the few times that he got an obligatory pat on the back - reporters couldn't wait for him to ACTUALLY dominate, so they waited for him to get Paul George numbers (above pippen's norm)

    Ultimately, pippen averaged 15 on 41% in the 98' Finals and 19 on 42% in 6 Finals... 0/6 in FMVP.. so Jordan won 6 carry-job rings.. 1-man team.. if AD averaged 19 on 42%, the Lakers would lose the 1st round

    How did Pippens rebounds and assists compare to Jordan?

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    Default Re: AD is shedding light on Kareem's career & ranking, imo (new all-time rankings ins

    Quote Originally Posted by Gus Hemmingway View Post
    How did Pippens rebounds and assists compare to Jordan?
    Not too good for MJ stains


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    Default Re: AD is shedding light on Kareem's career & ranking, imo (new all-time rankings ins

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation View Post
    Not too good for MJ stains


    Pippen's averages


    1988 RD 1 vs. CLE......10.6 on 47.1%
    1988 ECSF vs. DET...... 9.4 on 45.8%

    1989 RD 1 vs. CLE......15.0 on 39.8%
    1989 ECF vs. DET........ 9.7 on 40.2%


    1990 ECF vs DET........16.6 on 42.8%

    1992 ECSF vs NYN.....16.0 on 40.2%

    1993 RD 1 vs. ATL..... 15.0 on 42.2%

    1995 ECSF vs ORL.....19.0 on 40.9%

    1996 ECSF vs NYN.... 15.6 on 33.0%
    1996 FINAL vs SEA... 15.7 on 34.3%

    1997 RD 1 vs WAS.....16.7 on 38.3%
    1997 ECF vs. MIA..... 16.8 on 41.7%

    1998 ECF vs IND....... 16.6 on 39.2%
    1998 FINAL vs UTA... 15.7 on 41.0

    **17 on 41% in 96-98' Playoffs

    **19 on 42% in 6 Finals

    **12 on 42% vs 88-90' Pistons


    MJ never had a bad series

    so anytime the series was close or lost, it was pippen's poor play that caused it - see his many horrific series above.. YET HE WAS NEVER BLAMED

    Pippen was worse than Paul George but no one knocked him for it because people viewed him as a secondary player and everyone knew that mj was carrying the team.. mj was expected to win every game and no one noticed or cared how Pippen did.. Pippen never took responsibility because he wasn't a real star

    ultimately, mj nearly beat the 89' Pistons despite 10 on 40% from pippen - so mj would've won with anyone OTHER than pippen, thus proving he didn't need him.. and Phil wasn't there in 89' either (Phil inherited a team on the cusp of the Finals

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    Default Re: AD is shedding light on Kareem's career & ranking, imo (new all-time rankings ins

    Does this RANK incorporate the fact that KAJ dominated the NBA in the 1970s when half the talent is playing elsewhere, ABA specifically. The likes of Gilmore, Barry, Haywood, Issel, Thompson, Gervin and lastly, arguably the 2nd best player of 70s (behind KAJ), Dr. J.

    If this fact will be put in the context, KAJ further moves down.
    But then again, 3Ball rank is too terrible.

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    Default Re: AD is shedding light on Kareem's career & ranking, imo (new all-time rankings ins

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    Pippen averaged 15 on 41% in the 98' Finals - Lebron never won a Finals with his sidekick playing like that - Lebron never beat any top 5 SRS team with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick, aka Lebron never had a carry-job against a good team
    He was 16 on 41 you lying fakkit

    here is soul crusher for your dumb argument

    #2 options in 98 finals

    pippen 15.7 ppg
    hornacek 10.7 ppg

    pip out scored the #2 option by 47% more is that possible? has anyone ever achieved so much as #2 option?

    you always cite 2016 finals kyrie but he only outscored klya by 38%

    whups loook what you did again

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    Default Re: AD is shedding light on Kareem's career & ranking, imo (new all-time rankings ins

    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay View Post
    He was 16 on 41 you lying fakkit

    here is soul crusher for your dumb argument

    #2 options in 98 finals

    pippen 15.7 ppg
    hornacek 10.7 ppg

    pip out scored the #2 option by 47% more is that possible? has anyone ever achieved so much as #2 option?

    you always cite 2016 finals kyrie but he only outscored klya by 38%

    whups loook what you did again
    Lebron's #2 outscored the Warriors' #1 though......

    That's like Pippen averaging 30 to Malone's 25

    So try again.. the fraud is coming apart

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    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay View Post
    He was 16 on 41 you lying fakkit

    here is soul crusher for your dumb argument

    #2 options in 98 finals

    pippen 15.7 ppg
    hornacek 10.7 ppg

    pip out scored the #2 option by 47% more is that possible? has anyone ever achieved so much as #2 option?

    you always cite 2016 finals kyrie but he only outscored klya by 38%

    whups loook what you did again
    That is with Pippen being injured the final two games. He was at 20 PPG through the first four games.

    Not only that, Stockton arguably was their #2 option. He didn't crack double digits. He got close, but no cigar. Stockton had a 2 point game and averaged 7 PPG in Games 2-6. 2nd option. The "other" HOFer on the Jazz, with Malone/Stockton being the best duo the Bulls ever faced in the 90's. 7 PPG across five NBA finals game.

    7. 7. 7. 7. Let that sink in. Yet they don't say a word about that and complain about an injured Pippen scoring more than double, as did 3rd option Kukoc.

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    Default Re: AD is shedding light on Kareem's career & ranking, imo (new all-time rankings ins

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    Lebron's #2 outscored the Warriors' #1 though......

    That's like Pippen averaging 30 to Malone's 25

    So try again.. the fraud is coming apart
    I wonder why...

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    Both AD and Kareem needed super-point guards like Oscar, Magic, and now Lebron to find synergies and have a great team.

    Without these guys bird-feeding them, they're losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    Lebron's #2 outscored the Warriors' #1 though......

    That's like Pippen averaging 30 to Malone's 25

    So try again.. the fraud is coming apart

    pippen outscored lakers #1 option in 1991 finals you noob

    98 pippen outscored jazz #2 option by greatest % advantage at 47%

    bran also beat a #2 option scoring deficit of 27% versus russ westbrook in 2012 finals

    like always...

    you lose again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock View Post
    That is with Pippen being injured the final two games. He was at 20 PPG through the first four games.

    Not only that, Stockton arguably was their #2 option. He didn't crack double digits. He got close, but no cigar. Stockton had a 2 point game and averaged 7 PPG in Games 2-6. 2nd option. The "other" HOFer on the Jazz, with Malone/Stockton being the best duo the Bulls ever faced in the 90's. 7 PPG across five NBA finals game.

    7. 7. 7. 7. Let that sink in. Yet they don't say a word about that and complain about an injured Pippen scoring more than double, as did 3rd option Kukoc.
    the gig is up 1baLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

    dude is crying about pips 16 ppg but jeff scored 11 and stockton 10

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    Default Re: AD is shedding light on Kareem's career & ranking, imo (new all-time rankings ins

    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay View Post
    the gig is up 1baLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

    dude is crying about pips 16 ppg but jeff scored 11 and stockton 10


    The real delta is even worse because Pippen certainly was not the 2nd option in Game 6 (he was a basically a decoy). Kukoc was. Kukoc arguably was in Game 5. Pippen scored 20 PPG through 4 games and Kukoc was at 23 PPG in Games 5-6.

    If you give MJ stans the benefit of the doubt, let's use Pippen for Games 1-5 and Kukoc only for 6. That comes out to 16.8 PPG, which is 73% higher than Stockton's 9.7 and 57% higher than Hornacek's.

    Can you imagine if Pippen ever put up 9.7 PPG in a finals? We would never hear the end of it but all these MJ stans praise and defend Stockton. Keep in mind Stockton is the greatest sidekick the Bulls' faced. He ranks far ahead of Porter, Johnson, Kemp, and even Worthy all-time.

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    Default Re: AD is shedding light on Kareem's career & ranking, imo (new all-time rankings ins

    bird fed

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    Default Re: AD is shedding light on Kareem's career & ranking, imo (new all-time rankings ins

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    Both AD and Kareem needed super-point guards like Oscar, Magic, and now Lebron to find synergies and have a great team.

    Without these guys bird-feeding them, they're losers.
    OP spittin facts

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    Default Re: AD is shedding light on Kareem's career & ranking, imo (new all-time rankings ins

    Damn, OP ate his words. AD led the Lakers all playoffs in scoring. Was their best defender by far and, overall, their highest impact player.



    Anthony Davis Jabbar indeed

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    Default Re: AD is shedding light on Kareem's career & ranking, imo (new all-time rankings ins

    Quote Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock View Post
    That is with Pippen being injured the final two games. He was at 20 PPG through the first four games.

    Not only that, Stockton arguably was their #2 option. He didn't crack double digits. He got close, but no cigar. Stockton had a 2 point game and averaged 7 PPG in Games 2-6. 2nd option. The "other" HOFer on the Jazz, with Malone/Stockton being the best duo the Bulls ever faced in the 90's. 7 PPG across five NBA finals game.

    7. 7. 7. 7. Let that sink in. Yet they don't say a word about that and complain about an injured Pippen scoring more than double, as did 3rd option Kukoc.
    but muh pippenz ppgz was so low

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