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    Default Re: If Lebron is a genius hooper, then why no #1 offense despite goat offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    It must suck to not be able to engage in a discussion without lashing out at the other person

    A sign of massive insecurity

    Otoh, you never see me go after you guys because I know I'm the shit.. so I stick to the OP debate.. But if you want to start comparing dick size, you will lose... Badly

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    Default Re: If Lebron is a genius hooper, then why no #1 offense despite goat offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    It must suck to not be able to engage in a discussion without lashing out at the other person

    A sign of massive insecurity

    Otoh, you never see me go after you guys because I know I'm the shit.. so I stick to the OP debate.. But if you want to start comparing dick size, you will lose... Badly
    Post more footage of random people in the park

    Like most other people, I rarely even read your posts because you seem to just say the same thing over and over again. Seems even Roundball Rock (the dude that owned you on a daily basis) can't be bothered with your immature garbage anymore

    I hate to break it to you, but Michael Jordan doesn't know you exist let alone give a shit that you have a man crush on him.

    Talking about attacking people when that's all your here for. Get out and get some fresh air buddy. Also, 1-9.

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    Default Re: If Lebron is a genius hooper, then why no #1 offense despite goat offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by SATAN View Post
    Post more footage of random people in the park

    Like most other people, I rarely even read your posts because you seem to just say the same thing over and over again. Seems even Roundball Rock (the dude that owned you on a daily basis) can't be bothered with your immature garbage anymore

    I hate to break it to you, but Michael Jordan doesn't know you exist let alone give a shit that you have a man crush on him.

    Talking about attacking people when that's all your here for. Get out and get some fresh air buddy. Also, 1-9.

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    Default Re: If Lebron is a genius hooper, then why no #1 offense despite goat offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by SATAN View Post
    Post more footage of random people in the park

    Like most other people, I rarely even read your posts because you seem to just say the same thing over and over again. Seems even Roundball Rock (the dude that owned you on a daily basis) can't be bothered with your immature garbage anymore

    I hate to break it to you, but Michael Jordan doesn't know you exist let alone give a shit that you have a man crush on him.

    Talking about attacking people when that's all your here for. Get out and get some fresh air buddy. Also, 1-9.
    Respond to the OP fool

    You don't seem to realize how weak you sound

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    Default Re: If Lebron is a genius hooper, then why no #1 offense despite goat offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    What's the difference between Lebron's game and #1 offense guys like Curry, Jordan, or Bird?
    Believe it or not, there are more than 1 player on a team. There are also coaching staff. It's proven MJ couldn't do it all by himself. Neither can LJ or any other player. It's fine. But how would Michael have done under Tyronn Lou for instance? Don't get me wrong, Lou seems cool but he's not in the same stratosphere as PJ in terms of coaching value and leadership.

    Now shift the goal posts back in your favor.

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    Default Re: If Lebron is a genius hooper, then why no #1 offense despite goat offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by SATAN View Post
    Believe it or not, there are more than 1 player on a team. There are also coaching staff. It's proven MJ couldn't do it all by himself. Neither can LJ or any other player. It's fine. But how would Michael have done under Tyronn Lou for instance? Don't get me wrong, Lou seems cool but he's not in the same stratosphere as PJ in terms of coaching value and leadership.

    Now shift the goal posts back in your favor.
    If Jordan had a teammate match him in scoring like kyrie did lebron....... AND another all-star at PF.......

    he wouldn't need a coach... You or I would "coach" him to a title.. lol

    So you mention other teammates - where's Jordan's equal-scoring partner or 3rd all-star teammate?... Or 3-point shooting like all-star korver or shot-blocking?

    The biggest shot-blocker Jordan had was Dave Corzine at 0.8 and Cartwright at 0.5... otoh, Zydrunas averaged 2.5... Shaq and Mosgov 1.5... plus chandler and mcgee

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    Default Re: If Lebron is a genius hooper, then why no #1 offense despite goat offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    If Jordan had a teammate match him in scoring like kyrie did lebron....... AND another all-star at PF.......

    he wouldn't need a coach... You or I would "coach" him to a title.. lol

    So you mention other teammates - where's Jordan's equal-scoring partner or 3rd all-star teammate?... Or 3-point shooting like all-star korver or shot-blocking?

    The biggest shot-blocker Jordan had was Dave Corzine at 0.8 and Cartwright at 0.5... otoh, Zydrunas averaged 2.5... Shaq and Mosgov 1.5... plus chandler and mcgee
    Which is ironic when doug collins hasn't led him to the finals

    Also you can't judge a player's impact or greatness based on ppg alone

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    Default Re: If Lebron is a genius hooper, then why no #1 offense despite goat offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    If Jordan had a teammate match him in scoring like kyrie did lebron....... AND another all-star at PF.......

    he wouldn't need a coach... You or I would "coach" him to a title.. lol

    So you mention other teammates - where's Jordan's equal-scoring partner or 3rd all-star teammate?... Or 3-point shooting like all-star korver or shot-blocking?
    MJ simply didn't allow others to match his scoring. We all know it. Michael didn't want to play without Phil. You really wanna compare 3 point shooting then to now? That's being disingenuous. Not sure why shot blocking was even mentioned.

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    Default Re: If Lebron is a genius hooper, then why no #1 offense despite goat offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Which is ironic when doug collins hasn't led him to the finals

    Also you can't judge a player's impact or greatness based on ppg alone
    Yes you can..

    Based on ppg, we know draymond isn't a good scorer and pippen isn't an elite 1st option (like lebron's 2nd and 3rd options)

    And Collins almost took pippen to the Finals in 89', despite pippen averaging 10 on 40% and missing games 5 and 6... If Collins had a 2nd option that could finish the series, them mj wins in 89'

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    Default Re: If Lebron is a genius hooper, then why no #1 offense despite goat offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by SATAN View Post
    MJ simply didn't allow others to match his scoring. We all know it.

    94' Pippen... 22.0 and 5.6 apg
    92' Pippen... 21.0 and 7.0 apg

    94' Grant... 15/10
    92' Grant... 14/10

    pippen/grant/bj played to capacity next to mj, which means Jordan's scoring was needed

    Jordan's teammates averaged the same with or without him, or within 1-2 points.. there weren't massive drop-offs like lebron's teammates alongside lebron

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    Default Re: If Lebron is a genius hooper, then why no #1 offense despite goat offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    94' Pippen... 22.0 and 5.6 apg
    92' Pippen... 21.0 and 7.0 apg

    94' Grant... 15/10
    92' Grant... 14/10

    pippen/grant/bj played to capacity next to mj, which means Jordan's scoring was needed

    Jordan's teammates averaged the same with or without him, or within 1-2 points.. there weren't massive drop-offs like lebron's teammates alongside lebron
    this guy is always lying

    playoffs ppgz

    93 pippen: 20.1 ppg
    94 pippen: 22.8 ppg (13.4 % scoring up w/o mike)

    93 grant 10.7 ppg
    94 grant: 16.2 ppg (34 % scoring up w/o mike)

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    Default Re: If Lebron is a genius hooper, then why no #1 offense despite goat offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    94' Pippen... 22.0 and 5.6 apg
    92' Pippen... 21.0 and 7.0 apg

    94' Grant... 15/10
    92' Grant... 14/10

    pippen/grant/bj played to capacity next to mj, which means Jordan's scoring was needed

    Jordan's teammates averaged the same with or without him, or within 1-2 points.. there weren't massive drop-offs like lebron's teammates alongside lebron
    Yes we know MJ's scoring was needed. What's the point??

    Drop offs? Like who? Bosh? Love? Perhaps you're not looking at things in context?

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    Default Re: If Lebron is a genius hooper, then why no #1 offense despite goat offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay View Post
    this guy is always lying

    playoffs ppgz

    93 pippen: 20.1 ppg
    94 pippen: 22.8 ppg (13.4 % scoring up w/o mike)

    93 grant 10.7 ppg
    94 grant: 16.2 ppg (34 % scoring up w/o mike)

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    Default Re: If Lebron is a genius hooper, then why no #1 offense despite goat offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay View Post
    this guy is always lying

    playoffs ppgz

    93 pippen: 20.1 ppg
    94 pippen: 22.8 ppg (13.4 % scoring up w/o mike)

    93 grant 10.7 ppg
    94 grant: 16.2 ppg (34 % scoring up w/o mike)
    You can cherry-pick 10 games from the playoffs if you want, but pippen was a 22 ppg player without Jordan, and 19-21 with him

    So no change

    And grant was a 15 ppg player without Jordan, and 13-14 with him

    So no change.. no massive drop-off like lebron's teammates

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