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    Default Re: How is it even possible to lose to Dwight Howard in a series with HCA?

    Quote Originally Posted by light View Post
    That can happen when your #2 and #3 are Mo Williams and Delonte West.

    It's incredible that LeBron carried them that far.
    No not to Dwight Howard. He also had a 4x DPOY in Ben Wallace on the squad. Can't lose to a career loser in Dwight Howard.

    Dwight's #2 was Rashard Lewis who was the 6th option on the 2013 and 2014 Heat.
    Last edited by kawhileonard2; 02-07-2021 at 12:46 AM.

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    Default Re: How is it even possible to lose to Dwight Howard in a series with HCA?

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    MJ nearly won title with 90' Pippen, whereas Lebron was destroyed with guys > 90' Pippen


    Lost as favorite to 1-star team with:

    09' Mo Will...'.... 17.2 PER.. 0.165 WS/48.. 2.3 BPM.. 3.1 VORP
    90' Pippen........ 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP


    Swept 4-0 to Spurs with:

    05' L Hughes.... 21.6 PER.. 0.157 WS/48.. 4.3 BPM.. 3.7 VORP.. 1st team all-def
    90' Pippen........ 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP


    Lottery with:

    05' Zydrunas.... 19.5 PER.. 0.149 WS/48.. -0.2 BPM.. 1.2 VORP
    90' Pippen........ 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48... 1.8 BPM.. 3.0 VORP


    Lottery with:

    20' Ingram..'..... 18.8 PER.. 0.115 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM.. 2.2 VORP
    90' Pippen.....'.. 16.3 PER.. 0.087 WS/48.. 1.8 BPM . 3.0 VORP


    ^^^ 20' Ingram was used instead of 19' Ingram because Lebron's presence clearly caused a 1-year crater of Ingram's PER, BPM, VORP, and WS/48 in 2019.

    Similarly, Lebron cratered Hughes in 06', so Hughes 05' stats were used (his true capability)


    CONCLUSION: title

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    Default Re: How is it even possible to lose to Dwight Howard in a series with HCA?

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    09' Mo Will...'.... 17.2 PER.. 2.3 BPM.. 0.165 WS/48.. 3.1 VORP
    89' Pippen........ 14.9 PER.. 0.4 BPM.. 0.080 WS/48.. 1.5 VORP


    Quote Originally Posted by light View Post

    That can happen when your #2 and #3 are Mo Williams and Delonte West.

    It's incredible that LeBron carried them that far.


    09' Cavs'..... #3 defense... 18 on 38% from Mo... lost to #4 SRS Magic (2 all-stars)
    89' Bulls... #11 defense... 15 on 40% from Pip... defeat #1 SRS Cavs' (3 all-stars)


    The Cavs also had Ron Harper (20/5/5)

    Those Cavs were a better team than lebron ever beat in the East, and MJ beat them with shit from Pippen and a shit team defense..

    Ultimately, Lebron shot 30% on jumpers in the 4th quarter against Orlando and lost 3 fourth quarter leads - this included getting destroyed by Dwight in the critical Game 4 OT... Clutch and contested jumpshooting MATTERS.. it decides series

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    Default Re: How is it even possible to lose to Dwight Howard in a series with HCA?

    Dwight couldn't beat anyone else but Lebron.

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    Default Re: How is it even possible to lose to Dwight Howard in a series with HCA?

    Quote Originally Posted by kawhileonard2 View Post
    Dwight couldn't beat anyone else but Lebron.
    mike lost to terry cummings and joe dumars as number one options

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    Default Re: How is it even possible to lose to Dwight Howard in a series with HCA?

    That Orlando team was so ass lmaooo

    thats what happens when you get outplayed on both ends and dont play defense in a series as a superstar

    If KG was healthy that joke of a team dont make the finals. What the worse part is was their star guard Jameer Nelson was hurt and they had to call up Rafer Alston straight out of AND1

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    Default Re: How is it even possible to lose to Dwight Howard in a series with HCA?

    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay View Post
    mike lost to terry cummings and joe dumars as number one options
    Mike never lost with HCA. Lebron lost to Rafer Alston and Jason Terry with HCA.
    And lost to Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics.

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    Default Re: How is it even possible to lose to Dwight Howard in a series with HCA?

    Quote Originally Posted by kawhileonard2 View Post
    Mike never lost with HCA. Lebron lost to Rafer Alston and Jason Terry with HCA.
    And lost to Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics.
    dirk > terry cummings

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    Default Re: How is it even possible to lose to Dwight Howard in a series with HCA?

    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay View Post
    dirk > terry cummings

    next
    Did someone say Terry?


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    Default Re: How is it even possible to lose to Dwight Howard in a series with HCA?

    imagine having a screen name with three players and all their fmpv combined are less then the man you hate, le goat bran



    we win again


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    Default Re: How is it even possible to lose to Dwight Howard in a series with HCA?

    Imagine losing to Dwight Howard with HCA.

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    Default Re: How is it even possible to lose to Dwight Howard in a series with HCA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamtaro CP3KDKG View Post
    Did someone say Terry?



    Dude broke one of the LeBron Stan 10 commandments.... never mention the name Terry under any circumstances

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    Default Re: How is it even possible to lose to Dwight Howard in a series with HCA?

    Quote Originally Posted by ClipperRevival View Post
    Get your facts straight.

    This whole 1-9 thing is just a joke. Judging MJ in his first 3 seasons in the league, when he played either a great Bucks team (1985) or the GOAT tier Celtics team (1986 & 1987). MJ balled out in all those series. He had no help.

    This was LeBron's 6th NBA season with the 1st seed. Completely different circumstances.
    Exactly, when he had 63 vs the celtics , that was him only vs the mega celtics team. Still, he gave it all on the court and never Lequit.

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    Default Re: How is it even possible to lose to Dwight Howard in a series with HCA?

    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay View Post
    mike lost to terry cummings and joe dumars as number one options
    Terry Cummings, 1985 Bucks

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    Default Re: How is it even possible to lose to Dwight Howard in a series with HCA?

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan View Post


    Dude broke one of the LeBron Stan 10 commandments.... never mention the name Terry under any circumstances

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