We won in spite of Jordan getting on guys - Pippen

[97 bulls]

In games Pippen missed during their title years, the Bulls went 32-12 which is 60-win pace.

Lol. That don't mean much. Jordan's only successful stint without Pippen was 98. But the rest is either a small sample size, or the Bulls were just terrible.

[dankok8]

Lol. That don't mean much. Jordan's only successful stint without Pippen was 98. But the rest is either a small sample size, or the Bulls were just terrible.

He was 1-0 without Pippen in 1993, 5-0 in 1996 and 26-12 in 1998. The overall sample size is 44 games which is sizable, more than half a season's worth.

[Airupthere]

If it had been drexler instead of MJ with the Bulls, would they have done 2 3peats as well? If pippen is saying it was because they simply played team basketball. Would they have been as successful with drexler?

[3ba11]

Jordan wouldn't be hard on Kareem, Worthy, McHale or Parish - he was only hard on Pippen, Grant and Cartwright because they were low-producing bums.. Inconsistent role players that needed constant prodding like a kindergartener to keep their focus up

[SATAN]

Jordan wouldn't be hard on Kareem, Worthy, McHale or Parish - he was only hard on Pippen, Grant and Cartwright because they were low-producing bums.. Inconsistent role players that needed constant prodding like a kindergartener to keep their focus up

Pippen is one of the best players of all time and Horance Grant was an all star. Cartwright threatened to beat the shit out of MJ. He should have.

[Hey Yo]

He was 1-0 without Pippen in 1993, 5-0 in 1996 and 26-12 in 1998. The overall sample size is 44 games which is sizable, more than half a season's worth.

What was Chicago's postseason record without Pippen during those title runs?

[Reggie43]

This is pretty much Jordan's only real weakness. While it could be effective and necessary, that in your face leadership style needed Phil and Pippen to balance things out. It is also true the other way around, you wont win trying to please everybody on the team and telling them things they wanna hear. Somebody needs to be the asshole and tell them what they need to hear to make the team better and tougher.

[Honor Boost]

Name me the 50 win seasons Jordan had without Pippen?

I won't be holding my breath.

If you hold it you will die

[97 bulls]

He was 1-0 without Pippen in 1993, 5-0 in 1996 and 26-12 in 1998. The overall sample size is 44 games which is sizable, more than half a season's worth.

So you just repeated what I stated. 1 game in 1 season, 5 in another and half of 98. What about the other 5 seasons he played without Pip?

[Gohan]

In games Pippen missed during their title years, the Bulls went 32-12 which is 60-win pace.

So you just repeated what I stated. 1 game in 1 season, 5 in another and half of 98. What about the other 5 seasons he played without Pip?

He would of won with shawn kemp too. F pippen and his fans they can all eat a dick

[leopardJuice]

[dankok8]

So you just repeated what I stated. 1 game in 1 season, 5 in another and half of 98. What about the other 5 seasons he played without Pip?

He had terrible supporting casts before and after Pippen. He was also clearly past his prime with the Wizards. Both of those statements are objective takes. No one reasonable would even disagree with them.

The only sample we do have of Jordan with a good cast is the 44 games I posted. I didn't even mean it to be a slight at Pippen. I've always said Pippen was a great player and top 50 all time even if he didn't play with MJ.

[Hey Yo]

What was Chicago's postseason record without Pippen during those title runs?

??

[Axe]

You guys call the 90s a weak and watered down era but worship pippen too much. The irony.

[97 bulls]

He had terrible supporting casts before and after Pippen. He was also clearly past his prime with the Wizards. Both of those statements are objective takes. No one reasonable would even disagree with them.

The only sample we do have of Jordan with a good cast is the 44 games I posted. I didn't even mean it to be a slight at Pippen. I've always said Pippen was a great player and top 50 all time even if he didn't play with MJ.

I actually agree. The teams Jordan had without Pippen weren't good. But we're in Rome. And in Rome, context doesn't matter. That's why you have people knocking Pippen for not winning in 94. Or why you have people ripping Pippen for not winning in 00 at 35 years old. And you're in those chats saying the same shit against Pippen that you justify for Jordan. Those 94 and 95 teams were not good enough to win a championship and or got jobbed in 94, or Pippen while good, had too many miles and was too old in 00 to lead a team to a championship. So which one is it Dankok? Make up your mind.