Official Ja Morant for MVP thread

[Spurs m8]

How can he sustain top tier help when he keeps diminishing them or getting the ones with potential traded?

That's why he runs off and resets, like an easy path coward, every 4 years

[tontoz]

Once again, MVP has a large component that is built around team success. I didn't just give you Barkley, I also cited Nash and Rose. Those guys had good teammates as well but they were given the most credit for it. Did Nash have better stats than Shaq and Kobe? Did Rose have better stats than Lebron? Shaq's already calling Morant the best player in the league. But look at all of those guys respective teams success, they all jumped forward not backward. Yes, You have to have good stats which Morant has. But of all the teams, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Denver, and Memphis, only Memphis has taken a big step forward. All the others have regressed to some degree.

If a team makes a big leap forward because a guy missed the previous season due to injury i don't think a MVP candidate gets much credit for that.

Morant's numbers aren't close to the other guys. You can't give him that much credit for the teams success since JJ was out last season and the team was 12-2 without Morant this season.

Morant has the best highlights in the league for sure. But in terms of scoring/playmaking/defense he isn't comparable to the top 3 guys.

[tontoz]

12-2 is a fluke of lucky shooting, weak opponents and unsustainably tenacious defense. Completely irrelevant.

If thats the case then the team's record shouldn't be a big factor in Morants favor in the MVP voting.

[Axe]

Ja is the most exciting player in the league by a large margin but really shouldn't be considered MVP because Memphis is not dependent on him to win. Memphis is #1 in fast break points because they have multiple players who can dribble, create thier own shot and find the open man. Joker and Embid have more gravity, if Ja is considered why isn't Devin Booker a MVP candidate?

Those casuals only see that a player are worthy of becoming mvp when they're putting up impressive numbers over time, never mind looking at the bigger picture. Like if their respective teams have a good, winning record in games without them.

[Axe]

12-2 is a fluke of lucky shooting, weak opponents and unsustainably tenacious defense. Completely irrelevant.

What a dumb statement. No wonder people clown you for your opinions lmao.

[PeroAntic]

What a dumb statement. No wonder people clown you for your opinions lmao.

Its a proven fact you dingus.

[Axe]

Its a proven fact you dingus.

Says the clown who thinks lavine > tatum

[PeroAntic]

If thats the case then the team's record shouldn't be a big factor in Morants favor in the MVP voting.

Why not? Why would that small sample matter and not the actual big one? Team's position is only one factor for MVP.

[PeroAntic]

Says the clown who thinks lavine > tatum

Doesn't matter who says it if its a fact dingus

As for Lavine vs Tatum only a total dingus can laugh at the comparison as if its Bird and Scalabrine

[Axe]

Doesn't matter who says it if its a fact dingus

Yeah go cry us a river. Derrick rose cannot carry the knicks anymore, that's why you are rooting for other stars and teams these days.

[PeroAntic]

Yeah go cry us a river. Derrick rose cannot carry the knicks anymore, that's why you are rooting for other stars and teams these days.

[tontoz]

Why not? Why would that small sample matter and not the actual big one? Team's position is only one factor for MVP.

You said those games were a fluke. What do you think their record should have been in those games?

If they were 7-7 in those games then they would have 40 wins, tied with Dallas and Utah, 1 game up on Denver. What would be his case for MVP then?

[PeroAntic]

You said those games were a fluke. What do you think their record should have been in those games?

If they were 7-7 in those games then they would have 40 wins, tied with Dallas and Utah, 1 game up on Denver. What would be his case for MVP then?

Not much of a difference, still would have had a great case.

[tontoz]

Not much of a difference, still would have had a great case.

Based on what?

[PeroAntic]

Based on what?

Based on all the other components of what makes an MVP (raw stats, advanced stats, star teammates and of course the X factor - excitement).