Stats that prove MJ is the GOAT

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lebron was the best player in 8 finals - he only choked one finals and that was only because he was deferring in a new role.

How many finals did Jordan choke??

[TheMan]

doesnt matter how many finals losses he has he has the best ring of all time - broke a 52-year sports drought for his hometown who drafted him. that's epic.

lebron was the best player in 8 finals - he only choked one finals and that was only because he was deferring in a new role. he won the next two finals MVPs.


everyone still had him the best in the world after 2017 and 2018 despite the finals losses. because they could see the context of how he was playing the most stacked team of all-time and still balling out all regular season playoffs and finals.


8 finals in a row playing at an elite level every single series from 2012-2018 - that's superhuman durability and stamina. he easily could have won 8 rings. (wade hobbled 2014, kyrie and love went down 2015, warriors most stacked team of all-time 2017 and 2018, lebron the best player in the world every single postseason 8 years in a row).

Shoulda, coulda, woulda...MJ might've have had more rings had his father not been murdered and he stepped away...or ring chase like Bran would've done and went to LA with Shaq and Kobe when PJax recruited him to go. Others legends did that, like KAJ, imagine MJ with 8, 9 or 10 rings. That's legitimately what he left on the table that was there for the taking.

MJ was too alpha for that though...Bran will ring chase, take my word, that's gonna happen soon. That's the difference between MJ and Bran.

[dankok8]

Shoulda, coulda, woulda...MJ might've have had more rings had his father not been murdered and he stepped away...or ring chase like Bran would've done and went to LA with Shaq and Kobe when PJax recruited him to go. Others legends did that, like KAJ, imagine MJ with 8, 9 or 10 rings. That's legitimately what he left on the table that was there for the taking.

MJ was too alpha for that though...Bran will ring chase, take my word, that's gonna happen soon. That's the difference between MJ and Bran.

Yep. Jordan could have joined the Lakers when the Bulls fell apart and threepeated with Shaq and Kobe.

Anyways no need for what-if hypotheticals. MJ won 6 rings and Lebron won 4 rings.

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Shoulda, coulda, woulda...MJ might've have had more rings had his father not been murdered and he stepped away...or ring chase like Bran would've done and went to LA with Shaq and Kobe when PJax recruited him to go. Others legends did that, like KAJ, imagine MJ with 8, 9 or 10 rings. That's legitimately what he left on the table that was there for the taking.

MJ was too alpha for that though...Bran will ring chase, take my word, that's gonna happen soon. That's the difference between MJ and Bran.

jordan played on stacked teams against weak competition. you dont need to ring chase when your team is so stacked that it wins 55-games and goes game 7 eastern conference semis without you.

https://www.basketball-reference.com.../CHI/1994.html

despite all of the knocks of superteams, you'll never find a single lebron team that would win 50 games without him. and that includes every team he's EVER been on.


lebron's career and legacy speaks for itself. you dont need hypotheticals when you have facts like the only finals MVP over a 73-win in NBA history and 8 years in a row of being the best regular season playoff and finals player COMBINED in a row, on the resume.

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How many finals did Jordan choke??

lebron was the best player in 8 finals.

2011 is a proven anomaly easily explained by the new role of sharing the ball.


he won the next two finals MVPs in a row and was the best player in the next 8 NBA finals.

[TheMan]

lebron was the best player in 8 finals.

2011 is a proven anomaly easily explained by the new role of sharing the ball.


he won the next two finals MVPs in a row and was the best player in the next 8 NBA finals.

Bullshit he was, KD outplayed LeBron

And anomaly or whatever excuse you can come up with, MJ never had a bad series, forget about a Finals series on that cluster**** of bad by Bran 2011. Figuring out your new role doesn't excuse him from going ghost in 4th quarter after 4th quarter, even Wade tried to shake him from his beta stupor and this was well into Bran's prime, no excuses.

Not my GOAT

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Bullshit he was, KD outplayed LeBron

no he didnt. absolutely not. the cavs drove themselves crazy running around chasing curry. kd was the recipient of open shot after open shot. meanwhile bron and kyrie had to hard-carry the first year and in 2018 they didnt even have a chance with the amount of scrubs the cavs fielded vs the warriors. it was 1 on 5 with lebron going against the warriors.

kd didn't outplay bron either time. yeah he hit some big shots but the warriors were going to smoke the cavs regardless. they had the 3 best 3-point shooters in the league on the same team in kd klay and curry and had a stacked defensive team with iggy dray and klay.


you're wrong. everyone had lebron as the best in the world right after BOTH series. it literally pissed kd off that no one cared that he won.


lebron was the best in the world hands down from 2012-2018.

[TheMan]

no he didnt. absolutely not. the cavs drove themselves crazy running around chasing curry. kd was the recipient of open shot after open shot. meanwhile bron and kyrie had to hard-carry the first year and in 2018 they didnt even have a chance with the amount of scrubs the cavs fielded vs the warriors. it was 1 on 5 with lebron going against the warriors.

kd didn't outplay bron either time. yeah he hit some big shots but the warriors were going to smoke the cavs regardless. they had the 3 best 3-point shooters in the league on the same team in kd klay and curry and had a stacked defensive team with iggy dray and klay.


you're wrong. everyone had lebron as the best in the world right after BOTH series. it literally pissed kd off that no one cared that he won.


lebron was the best in the world hands down from 2012-2018.

Nope, stop rewriting history. KD outplayed Bran, he won FMVP. There is precedent in the NBA Finals for the best player in the Finals being from the losing team. In your biased eyes, Bran was the Finals best player...everyone else without a dog in this fight saw KD hitting dagger after dagger to put it away, in LeBron's face no less.

Maybe you can convince your kids otherwise, you ain't convincing us who saw those series in real time.

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no he didnt. absolutely not. the cavs drove themselves crazy running around chasing curry. kd was the recipient of open shot after open shot. meanwhile bron and kyrie had to hard-carry the first year and in 2018 they didnt even have a chance with the amount of scrubs the cavs fielded vs the warriors. it was 1 on 5 with lebron going against the warriors.

kd didn't outplay bron either time. yeah he hit some big shots but the warriors were going to smoke the cavs regardless. they had the 3 best 3-point shooters in the league on the same team in kd klay and curry and had a stacked defensive team with iggy dray and klay.


you're wrong. everyone had lebron as the best in the world right after BOTH series. it literally pissed kd off that no one cared that he won.


lebron was the best in the world hands down from 2012-2018.

High IQ post. TheMan so angry he's gonna have to look at pics of his cousin to calm down.

[TheMan]

High IQ post. TheMan so angry he's gonna have to look at pics of his cousin to calm down.

I actually think you're better than this, stupid post coming from someone claiming that post was high IQ

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I actually think you're better than this, stupid post coming from someone claiming that post was high IQ

What he said was mostly true, he just exaggerated it to make you mad.

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Nope, stop rewriting history. KD outplayed Bran, he won FMVP. There is precedent in the NBA Finals for the best player in the Finals being from the losing team. In your biased eyes, Bran was the Finals best player...everyone else without a dog in this fight saw KD hitting dagger after dagger to put it away, in LeBron's face no less.

Maybe you can convince your kids otherwise, you ain't convincing us who saw those series in real time.

dude I was there. lebron was a workhorse like no other. best in the world every series. better than kd in the regular season postseason and finals.


better than EVERY player no debate from 2012-2018. 8-years in a row. go look at the GM voting those summers.




leGOAT.

[dankok8]

KD was better than Lebron in the 2017 Finals and they were neck and neck in the 2018 Finals. Lebron definitely didn't come out of either of those series looking clearly better than Durant. KD rightfully got the blame for joining a 73-win team but his level of play in both of those finals was stupendously high.

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*during the weakest NBA decade

Lol

[Axe]

KD was better than Lebron in the 2017 Finals and they were neck and neck in the 2018 Finals. Lebron definitely didn't come out of either of those series looking clearly better than Durant. KD rightfully got the blame for joining a 73-win team but his level of play in both of those finals was stupendously high.

LeKong was obviously better in 2018 only because of the scrubs he had in his team; they have a paltry record in the rs without him. Kyrie wasn't there to share some load anymore while kevin love has become unreliable by that time. The rest are pretty meh. I'm not sure why those aren't brought up whenever someone mentions the carry-job he did four years ago. Because his numbers wouldn't be insane if he had useful teammates bt.