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Re: 1 Title in 11 Years for the Franchise that you originally played for ...
 Originally Posted by Shooter
Tell me when Mo Williams got 3rd in MVP voting and led his team to 55 wins
I'll wait
Shaq won 3 finals mvp and a league mvp. Ben Wallace won 4 DPOY. Lebron played with that in Cleveland.
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Re: 1 Title in 11 Years for the Franchise that you originally played for ...
 Originally Posted by kawhileonard2
Shaq won 3 finals mvp and a league mvp. Ben Wallace won 4 DPOY. Lebron played with that in Cleveland.
they're desperate boys
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Re: 1 Title in 11 Years for the Franchise that you originally played for ...
 Originally Posted by Shooter
Tell me when Mo Williams got 3rd in MVP voting and led his team to 55 wins
I'll wait
Shaq won league mvp, Russell Westbrook won league mvp and Lebron couldn’t win with either.
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Re: 1 Title in 11 Years for the Franchise that you originally played for ...
1 title in 11 years for franchise that drafted you.
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Re: 1 Title in 11 Years for the Franchise that you originally played for ...
1 title in 70 years for Cleveland
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Re: 1 Title in 11 Years for the Franchise that you originally played for ...
 Originally Posted by kawhileonard2
Lebron got 1 title in 11 years for a franchise that drafted him/originally played for. Which is terrible for some all time great that stayed with a franchise that long.
Kawhi, Steph, Kobe, Duncan, Pierce, Dirk, all did better than that.
Kawhi and Kobe didn't win a single championship for the franchise they were drafted to. Dirk and Pierce did worse than 1/11.
Even your arbitrary criterias leave Lebron in some exclusive company.
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Re: 1 Title in 11 Years for the Franchise that you originally played for ...
Couldn't even make the playoffs with prime Westbrook.
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Re: 1 Title in 11 Years for the Franchise that you originally played for ...
 Originally Posted by kawhileonard2
Couldn't even make the playoffs with prime Westbrook.
Why would he need a trade for this to happen while Kawhi thrived with Westbrook?
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Re: 1 Title in 11 Years for the Franchise that you originally played for ...
 Originally Posted by kawhileonard2
Lebron got 1 title in 11 years for a franchise that drafted him/originally played for. Which is terrible for some all time great that stayed with a franchise that long.
Kawhi, Steph, Kobe, Duncan, Pierce, Dirk, all did better than that.
They fell into competent franchises. Dan Gilbert had no idea how to build a team around his young superstar and that's why he left.
Dirk only has one as well.
Kawhi got carried to his first ring and he played like Iguodala and on the Spurs 2014 title, he won a FMVP.
Pierce got lucky they brought him KG and Ray.
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Re: 1 Title in 11 Years for the Franchise that you originally played for ...
 Originally Posted by kawhileonard2
Couldn't even make the playoffs with prime Westbrook.

Russ might not even be in the league next year because nobody will want him.
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Re: 1 Title in 11 Years for the Franchise that you originally played for ...
 Originally Posted by k0kakw0rld
They fell into competent franchises. Dan Gilbert had no idea how to build a team around his young superstar and that's why he left.
Dirk only has one as well.
Kawhi got carried to his first ring and he played like Iguodala and on the Spurs 2014 title, he won a FMVP.
Pierce got lucky they brought him KG and Ray.
They had Shaq, Ben Wallace
How many franchises had a 3x Finals MVP winner or 4x DPOY winner that won a title?
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Re: 1 Title in 11 Years for the Franchise that you originally played for ...
 Originally Posted by John8204
Russ might not even be in the league next year because nobody will want him.
Plenty of teams want him. How many guys won league mvp and has the most triple doubles all time?
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Re: 1 Title in 11 Years for the Franchise that you originally played for ...
How many players won a ring as the man by age 25? Certainly not Jordan.
From that point on, lebron made 9 finals and won 4 chips in 10 years.
This thread is just silly.
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Re: 1 Title in 11 Years for the Franchise that you originally played for ...
 Originally Posted by AussieSteve
How many players won a ring as the man by age 25? Certainly not Jordan.
From that point on, lebron made 9 finals and won 4 chips in 10 years.
This thread is just silly.
Not good with the stacked teams he has had and the players he has had. Steph has as many titles in less years.
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