The 2011-2014 Heat don't seem stacked anymore

[Real Men Wear Green]

And the 2015 Hawks had 4 All-stars.

Look, if both teams met in a series all healthy, I would probably go with Miami just because we are talking about peak LeBron with the best cast he ever had going up against a team who's best player hasn't proven he can take over with his scoring in crucial games, but if we are looking at both teams from top to bottom, you cannot tell me with a straight face that Miami is more stacked.

I understand that you are one of the most stubborn users on this forum, but facts are facts. In no world are Bosh, old Allen, Chalmers, & Battier better players than Porzingis, Holiday, White, & old Horford.

Flattered that I stand out to you but to me you are just one of a million James stans, likely just another alt. The Hawks had no one on par with James and Wade, everyone knows this. The Celtics, again, have two Allstars and only one AllNBA. That's not just my opinion, that's a factual statement. Never before had a team with only one AllNBA player and no one in the top 5 for mvp voting been labeled as stacked. That's far from the standard.

[1987_Lakers]

Flattered that I stand out to you but to me you are just one of a million James stans, likely just another alt. The Hawks had no one on par with James and Wade, everyone knows this. The Celtics, again, have two Allstars and only one AllNBA. That's not just my opinion, that's a factual statement. Never before had a team with only one AllNBA player and no one in the top 5 for mvp voting been labeled as stacked. That's far from the standard.

'89 Pistons.

Hell, they didn't have anyone in the top 15 in the MVP voting, had zero All-NBA players and were still voted as a top 10 team of all time by the NBA in 1996.

Incredibly stacked team that had 3 Hall of famers, guys like Rodman, Vinnie Johnson, & Edwards off the bench.

They were not top heavy, but the depth was all-time great.

This team went toe to toe with Magic & Bird at their peaks and was beating prime MJ year in and year out.

But lets not call them stacked.

[1987_Lakers]

You could argue this Celtics team might end up with 3 Hall of famers, Tatum, Brown, & Holiday. While also having borderline all-stars in Porzingis & White as role players. (White got a lot of all-star buzz this year)

That is the definition of stacked.

You are one delusional mf'er.

[Real Men Wear Green]

'89 Pistons.

Hell, they didn't have anyone in the top 15 in the MVP voting, had zero All-NBA players and were still voted as a top 10 team of all time by the NBA in 1996.

Incredibly stacked team that had 3 Hall of famers, guys like Rodman, Vinnie Johnson, & Edwards off the bench.

They were not top heavy, but the depth was all-time great.

This team went toe to toe with Magic & Bird at their peaks and was beating prime MJ year in and year out.

But lets not call them stacked.

If only great meant the same thing as "stacked. " It doesn't.

You could argue this Celtics team might end up with 3 Hall of famers, Tatum, Brown, & Holiday. While also having borderline all-stars in Porzingis & White as role players. (White got a lot of all-star buzz this year)

That is the definition of stacked.


You are one delusional mf'er.

So let's apply the HoF=stacked logic to the Heat: James, Wade, Allen, Bosh. That would be 4 Hall of famers vs. The Celtics who as of now have one guy who were sure will be in the Hall, another guy that's likely if he can keep up his current level for a while, and a third guy that could make it but we aren't sure. In spades that would be 2 and a possible. And no one that would be put on the list of 75 greatest players of all time. You didn't think that one through.

[warriorfan]

1987 lakers vs real faggets wear green

battle of the low iqs

[1987_Lakers]

If only great meant the same thing as "stacked. " It doesn't.

They had Rodman & one of the best sixth men of the entire 80's (Vinnie) coming off the bench, not to mention Edwards as an 8th man who would have started on some bad teams, along with 2 hall of famers in the starting lineup AND Laimbeer & Aguirre. I would consider that stacked. Nice try.

So let's apply the HoF=stacked logic to the Heat: James, Wade, Allen, Bosh. That would be 4 Hall of famers vs. The Celtics who as of now have one guy who were sure will be in the Hall, another guy that's likely if he can keep up his current level for a while, and a third guy that could make it but we aren't sure. In spades that would be 2 and a possible. And no one that would be put on the list of 75 greatest players of all time. You didn't think that one through.

Ray Allen was 37, what is this trolling shit?

Tatum is a Hall of Fame lock. Brown is getting in if he keeps up this play, especially if he wins FMVP which it looks like he is on his way to. Holiday will also be a lock with his 2 chips and Olympic Gold Medal. You think those guys won't make it after we just saw Michael Cooper make it? Holiday is arguably the best defensive guard of his era who did much more on the court than Cooper did.

You didn't think this through. You are better than this.

[iamgine]

2012 Heat if today would be something like:

Jokic
Siakam
Sam Hauser
SGA
Tyus Jones

[1987_Lakers]

1987 lakers vs real faggets wear green

battle of the low iqs

real men wear green actually seems pretty smart, but not when it comes to discussing ball. He tries so hard to come off as he knows his stuff, but falls flat so many times.

[RRR3]

Al Horford will make the HOF too btw so Celtics likely eventually have 3-4 HOFers from this team. Porzingis may have if he could have stayed healthy but that’s not happening obviously.

[Real Men Wear Green]

They had Rodman & one of the best sixth men of the entire 80's (Vinnie) coming off the bench, not to mention Edwards as an 8th man who would have started on some bad teams, along with 2 hall of famers in the starting lineup AND Laimbeer & Aguirre. I would consider that stacked. Nice try.

Not a single one of whom averaged 20 points. You have some kind of emotional damage where it hurts your feelings that the Heat get called stacked. Too bad, they were.

Ray Allen was 37, what is this trolling shit?

Ray Allen hit one of the two biggest shots of Lebron James's career. And was still a double-digit scorer of the bench. You would know trolling though.

Tatum is a Hall of Fame lock. Brown is getting in if he keeps up this play, especially if he wins FMVP which it looks like he is on his way to. Holiday will also be a lock with his 2 chips and Olympic Gold Medal. You think those guys won't make it after we just saw Michael Cooper make it? Holiday is arguably the best defensive guard of his era who did much more on the court than Cooper did.

You didn't think this through. You are better than this.

Which still leaves us at 2 and a possible. Was there a point here?

[rmt]

The Heat had THREE franchise players in their primes - one of whom many of you claim is the GOAT. Not 3, not 4, ... brought to you from a front seat up close in Miami.

[GimmeThat]

The Heat had THREE franchise players in their primes - one of whom many of you claim is the GOAT. Not 3, not 4, ... brought to you from a front seat up close in Miami.

name me a team with less ring chasers than the 2011-2014 Heat from the 2000-2010 era

[HoopsNY]

What brings the Celtics down is that they don't have that bonified superstar who is a top 3 player, but if you look at the roster from top to bottom, they are pretty stacked. Almost unfair to have Porzingis, Holiday, & White as your #3-#5 guys.

LeBron's miami teams #4 and #5 options were a 37 year old Ray Allen & Mario Chalmers, both clearly below Boston's supporting casts in terms of talent.

Saying Allen's age doesn't mean anything when Allen was such a crucial player to the Heat in 2013 and 2014. RMWG already highlighted his clutch three to save Miami in the finals against the Spurs, but let's not forget that Ray in the playoffs with Miami put up 10 PPG in just 25 minutes of action in the playoffs during those years on 59% TS%.

In the finals, he was even better, posting a 64% TS%. I also think having guys like Battier and Birdman helped Miami. They certainly were stacked. Saying the Celtics are stacked doesn't change that.

I also think we'd have to adjust the numbers. In those days, the Heat averaged anywhere from 16 to 22 threes a game. What's guys like Wade, LeBron, Bosh, Chalmers, or Allen's numbers looking like with more spacing and three point spamming at 35-40 attempts per game?

[Axe]

Saying Allen's age doesn't mean anything when Allen was such a crucial player to the Heat in 2013 and 2014. RMWG already highlighted his clutch three to save Miami in the finals against the Spurs, but let's not forget that Ray in the playoffs with Miami put up 10 PPG in just 25 minutes of action in the playoffs during those years on 59% TS%.

In the finals, he was even better, posting a 64% TS%. I also think having guys like Battier and Birdman helped Miami. They certainly were stacked. Saying the Celtics are stacked doesn't change that.

I also think we'd have to adjust the numbers. In those days, the Heat averaged anywhere from 16 to 22 threes a game. What's guys like Wade, LeBron, Bosh, Chalmers, or Allen's numbers looking like with more spacing and three point spamming at 35-40 attempts per game?

Long story short, many believed that heat team from that era could have done better due to the hype they had bt. They didn't feel as cohesive as the dub dynasty that started in 2015 and therefore, some people probably couldn't help but feel that they 'underachieved.'

[GimmeThat]

Long story short, many believed that heat team from that era could have done better due to the hype they had bt. They didn't feel as cohesive as the dub dynasty that started in 2015 and therefore, some people probably couldn't help but feel that they 'underachieved.'

you can't win championships and not be cohesive or underachieve, people probably have difficulty in comprehending how players of the same age group (draft class) ended up having different ambition in professional sports.