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    Default Re: Put Demar Derozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?

    They will win a Champions Chip and a IST. Demar have too much self respect to get punched in the face by Chris Childs.

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    Default Re: Put DeMar DeRozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?

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    Bulls...... 106.7 PPG.... 113.0 ORTG
    Suns...... 106.7 PPG.... 113.0 ORTG


    ^^^ could DeRozan average the 41/9/6 necessary to squeak out a win vs the juggernaut Suns???

    Remember that Pippen shot 0% on threes and 59% FT for 46.9 true shooting overall, so he couldn't handle additional load

    So it's more complicated than just adding any scorer to the Bulls because the GOAT scorer is required

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    Default Re: Put DeMar DeRozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?

    They won 55 games without Jordan, you add an All-NBA player to that team? They definitely win the championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    They won 55 games without Jordan, you add an All-NBA player to that team? They definitely win the championship.
    Bingo

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    They won 55 games without Jordan, you add an All-NBA player to that team? They definitely win the championship.

    ^^^ Says the shallow-thinking fan who never predicts anything right

    Those Bulls had the quintessential one-off against sleeping opponents in 1994, while the "real" Bulls were historically-embarrassed in the 2nd Round and borderline .500 the following season before MJ returned

    Pippen was never a "franchise player" that was asked to build a lottery team from scratch, and instead he was handed the keys to the most well-oiled machine ever in 94'.. It wasn't remotely surprising that once opponents woke up in the playoffs, Pippen was exposed and the "real" Bulls without MJ were borderline .500 before he returned in 95'... It's intuitive that any team with Pippen as the best scorer will fall out of contention QUICKLY due to lack of talent, even a 3-peat dynasty as we saw in 95'.

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    Default Re: Put DeMar DeRozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    They won 55 games without Jordan, you add an All-NBA player to that team? They definitely win the championship.
    bingo

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    They won 55 games without Jordan, you add an All-NBA player to that team? They definitely win the championship.
    True.

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    ^^^ That's what Pippen faced all year, so it wasn't a real 55 wins - the "real" Bulls were exposed in the playoffs and borderline .500 in 1995 before MJ returned.

    Imagine if you're an opposing player and you think that you're facing the GOAT, so you circle your calendar and buy a bunch of tickets for family and friends... But then MJ suddenly retires, so now you're fielding uncomfortable calls from family members saying they can't make it... So the biggest game of your life just became a game that no one cares about and you now don't care about at all - that's what the 94' Bulls faced in the regular season (sleeping opponents), but they were appropriately exposed when opponents woke up in the playoffs and following season
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    Default Re: Put DeMar DeRozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?

    Scottie pippen was the most winning player in the 90s, not michael jordan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Scottie pippen was the most winning player in the 90s, not michael jordan.

    It's a statistical fact that Pippen is the most carried teammate in NBA history, by far

    There's never been a bigger statistical gap between 1st and 2nd option than MJ and Pippen.... Pippen is similar to other winning sidekicks like Klay, Pau, Parker or Ginobili that only made All-NBA after winning some titles

    And there's never been an all-time great that was actually just a dunker and transition player (low producer)

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    Default Re: Put DeMar DeRozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?

    It's a statistical fact the Bulls won 55 games without Jordan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    It's a statistical fact the Bulls won 55 games without Jordan.

    Anyone can do that against sleeping opponents, so it wasn't a real 55 wins.

    Young fans don't realize how much of a one-off it was - it was never a big story in 1994 because everyone knew the bubble would burst in short order and it did... 30 years later, new fans look back and mistakenly think the Bulls had a stacked cast when they literally had the worst scoring help and cast in the league and got by via 3-peat chemistry vs sleeping opponents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    It's a statistical fact that Pippen is the most carried teammate in NBA history, by far

    There's never been a bigger statistical gap between 1st and 2nd option than MJ and Pippen.... Pippen is similar to other winning sidekicks like Klay, Pau, Parker or Ginobili that only made All-NBA after winning some titles

    And there's never been an all-time great that was actually just a dunker and transition player (low producer)
    1-9 says 'hold my beer'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    1-9 says 'hold my beer'.

    The Bulls won in 1988 because MJ entered his prime, so it could've been any 7 ppg bum, and it just happened to by Pippen - he was the lucky low-producer that landed alongside goat and was carried to 6 titles - the stats show that clearly - Pippen stunk and was carried.

    If AD averaged Pippen's numbers, no amount of defense would stop people from removing him from HOF consideration and downgrading him to a regular player and not an all-timer... So you guys are just lying about Pippen - he's the most overrated player ever because he was carried to 6 titles... Do you realize that if Pippen, Klay, Pau, Parker and Ginobili never won titles, they would be considered regular players and not All-NBA??... There's tons of 15-20 ppg guys that never sniff All-NBA, and that's what all these guys would've been without Curry, Duncan and MJ carrying them to titles.

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