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Re: After watching Showtime Lakers, no way could today's players compete with them
 Originally Posted by Walk on Water
They wouldn't have a chance without the 3. The 80s players were better all around.
Ummm, but there was a 3 point line in the 80s. Why WOULDN'T todays players use it when they do every game? "Lets play a game to decide whos best, except you can't use your greatest strength and i can use mine?" Kinda silly take you've got going. And by your theory then the 60s Celtics would also annihilate the 80s Lakers because they did it 1st and even faster than showtime did with more limitations on the way they could play. Silly theories open even sillier doors.
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Re: After watching Showtime Lakers, no way could today's players compete with them
 Originally Posted by sdot_thadon
Ummm, but there was a 3 point line in the 80s. Why WOULDN'T todays players use it when they do every game? Kinda silly take you've got going. And by your theory then the 60s Celtics would also annihilate the 80s Lakers because they did it 1st and even faster than showtime did with more limitations on the way they could play. Silly theories open even sillier doors.
He's dim
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Re: After watching Showtime Lakers, no way could today's players compete with them
I don't really follow other team sports strongly enough to know if rules and style changes handicap older teams and/or players to the extent it does the NBA. Like if you bought the 80s 49ers or 2000's Pats into 2024 would they get obliterated by today's NFL teams?
By 2050 the teams will be taking 80 threes a game and then todays teams wouldnt be able to compete with them. It's kind of a circular, pointless conversation at this stage comparing teams this far apart and playing in rules so different they may as well be different sports.
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Re: After watching Showtime Lakers, no way could today's players compete with them
Someone like Dennis Johnson would be a superstar today and he was only a role player on Celtics.
Players were not allowed to carry and palm in the 80s which made the players look much worse than they actually were, but Dennis Johnson doesn't look awkward even by today's standards.
Tom Chambers would be a huge star today, 6'10'' and very athletic, run like a guard. Ralph Sampson is basically Wemby etc.
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Re: After watching Showtime Lakers, no way could today's players compete with them
 Originally Posted by sdot_thadon
Ummm, but there was a 3 point line in the 80s. Why WOULDN'T todays players use it when they do every game? "Lets play a game to decide whos best, except you can't use your greatest strength and i can use mine?" Kinda silly take you've got going. And by your theory then the 60s Celtics would also annihilate the 80s Lakers because they did it 1st and even faster than showtime did with more limitations on the way they could play. Silly theories open even sillier doors.
So you admit it then, that other than the 3 point shot, 80s teams are better. Make the simple era adjustments 80s style and the 2025 teams have no shot. That’s all I’m saying. Just agree.
Last edited by Walk on Water; 01-04-2025 at 02:59 PM.
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Re: After watching Showtime Lakers, no way could today's players compete with them
 Originally Posted by 90sgoat
Someone like Dennis Johnson would be a superstar today and he was only a role player on Celtics.
Players were not allowed to carry and palm in the 80s which made the players look much worse than they actually were, but Dennis Johnson doesn't look awkward even by today's standards.
Tom Chambers would be a huge star today, 6'10'' and very athletic, run like a guard. Ralph Sampson is basically Wemby etc.
Exactly. You understand.
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Re: After watching Showtime Lakers, no way could today's players compete with them
 Originally Posted by Phoenix
I don't really follow other team sports strongly enough to know if rules and style changes handicap older teams and/or players to the extent it does the NBA. Like if you bought the 80s 49ers or 2000's Pats into 2024 would they get obliterated by today's NFL teams?
By 2050 the teams will be taking 80 threes a game and then todays teams wouldnt be able to compete with them. It's kind of a circular, pointless conversation at this stage comparing teams this far apart and playing in rules so different they may as well be different sports.
That’s true but all I’m saying is if you watch an entire game you will come to realize that today’s players don’t have the talent of the past inside the 3 point line. It’s a very big gap.
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Re: After watching Showtime Lakers, no way could today's players compete with them
 Originally Posted by Walk on Water
That’s true but all I’m saying is if you watch an entire game you will come to realize that today’s players don’t have the talent of the past inside the 3 point line. It’s a very big gap.
Well it's the inverse of now. Past players had to be more skilled inside the line and in the post because defenses were geared more towards those areas of the floor.
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Re: After watching Showtime Lakers, no way could today's players compete with them
 Originally Posted by Phoenix
Well it's the inverse of now. Past players had to be more skilled inside the line and in the post because defenses were geared more towards those areas of the floor.
So I would like to see more of a balance now. There’s no reason they had to give shooters so many rule advantages.
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Re: After watching Showtime Lakers, no way could today's players compete with them
today's players have mastered the simpleton "down-hill" format and struggle against less talented international teams that play 5-man basketball, so they would get killed by the 80's and 90's basketball - real basketball - not a manufactured "down-hill" format
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Re: After watching Showtime Lakers, no way could today's players compete with them
Kareem magic and worthy would be borderline automatic buckets, 12 feet and in versus the small ball lineups but in the end, you’re still trading threes for two. Magic Cooper and worthy would take a lot more threes I’m sure but they will make adjustments. Give them like four modern role players they will be fine on day one.
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Re: After watching Showtime Lakers, no way could today's players compete with them
 Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
C and worthy would be borderline automatic buckets, 12 feet versus the small ball lineups but in the end, you’re still trading threes for two. Magic Cooper and worthy would take a lot more threes I’m sure but they will make adjustments. Give them like four modern role players they will be fine on day one.
I would say the same for 2nd threepeat Bulls. Rodman would probably be a small ball center, Kukoc at the 4, and give them some current age 3 and D types.
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Re: After watching Showtime Lakers, no way could today's players compete with them
 Originally Posted by Mask the Embiid
Any elite player can play in any era.....we still doing this? yall are still doing this? I thought after Ben Simmon's sorry ass and his 1950's style of play came into the league. In the late 2010's, racking up all star appearances, we would stop saying this bs.....A PG who couldn't shoot 3's, dominated in the late 2010's....If that didn't debunk this stupid ass myth of people not being able to play in different eras, Jokic should of put the nail in the coffin in the 2020's. The man is not being able to jump over a loosely piece of paper. Yet still dominates everyone in the league outside of joel embiid
It's not as much about players, tru, but it is about teams. There have been some ATG teams, and there really aren't any now. I think the last really great team was the KD Wars. Am I missing something?
-Smak
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Re: After watching Showtime Lakers, no way could today's players compete with them
 Originally Posted by ILLsmak
It's not as much about players, tru, but it is about teams. There have been some ATG teams, and there really aren't any now. I think the last really great team was the KD Wars. Am I missing something?
-Smak
It's like the 70s now where there was a different champion like every year. You're correct that the last ATG team as far as being an enduring dynasty is the Warriors.
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Re: After watching Showtime Lakers, no way could today's players compete with them
Probably the reason why Jordan only won 1 playoffs series in the 1980's. The 1980's were tougher than the 1990's
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