Do you really think Lebron has never used steroids?

[Meticode]

I don't know and don't really care until actual legit evidence is shown. Otherwise it's just all assumption and rumors.

[Chick Stern]

Lance Armstrong showed us that PEDs were affecting things from the late 80s, and sooner.

[GOBB]

I do wonder if the average Joe questions athletes integrity (cheating) becuase they want them on the same level as them? Or to say you’re not this superior athlete as they say/you think. All the while the average joe isn’t even great at much. In fact a few cheat in life be it with their significant other, their health, leg day, video games etc.

Or maybe it’s just really mostly stand up individuals who question it. Maybe I’m doing too much. I should chill….

[Wally450]

Even if he did, it wouldn't be enough to get him to where he is today. It would be more for injury recovery.

What he's done is remarkable.

[eliteballer]

[Baller234]

"There's no evidence guys..."

Meanwhile:

- His friend/business manager and his former trainer were caught purchasing PED's claiming it was for personal use
- That weird time he looked like a stick figure to start the season, took a 2 week break, then magically looked like his old self
- The fact that he is the only player in history to hold onto his explosiveness at age 40.
- That weird time he went down with cramps in the finals.

With the cramps I could take it or leave it but it was still weird. If you wanna exclude that one fine, it still leaves the other three.

And for those saying it doesn't mean anything if he was on something, sorry but this is a guy who dominated largely because of his physical advantages. He was extremely talented sure but what made him uniquely special was his combination of size, strength and speed.

It would be a real shame to have to discount Bron's greatness. As much as I hate him, I have to admit he was a joy to watch as a fan of the game. He was the ONLY player I saw who I thought had the potential to be better than Jordan. But if it comes out that he was on something, I'm sorry it does bring his greatness into question in my opinion.

[GOBB]

Even if he did, it wouldn't be enough to get him to where he is today. It would be more for injury recovery.

What he's done is remarkable.

What? Most athletes take PEDs to recover faster and keep them on the playing field so they can perform every time. LeBron is the all time leading scorer because he played the most games ever. I wonder how he was able to sustain playing that many games for that long. Remarkable.

[TheMan]

What is more realistic? That he has or has not?

The only reason this guy hasn't shaved in over decade is to hide his ridiculous jawline and chin than can be compared to Barry Bonds from youth to old age.


The man uses PEDs ..... let's start to face reality.

In other news...sky is still blue and water is wet.

[sdot_thadon]

I do wonder if the average Joe questions athletes integrity (cheating) becuase they want them on the same level as them? Or to say you’re not this superior athlete as they say/you think. All the while the average joe isn’t even great at much. In fact a few cheat in life be it with their significant other, their health, leg day, video games etc.

Or maybe it’s just really mostly stand up individuals who question it. Maybe I’m doing too much. I should chill….

I'm thinking you're right, ive always felt it was an inferiority complex and obviously here its just a proxy for some other battle/hate/standom. I dont know if its ok to let guys take stuff but I do know the most i ever enjoyed baseball was when Barry Bonds was annihilating everything that moved. I was entertained so i really cant hate on it. And im of the train of thought that if we beleive this guy took it why is everyone else who has elite athletic ability or body builder muscles excluded from suspicion? Especially in older eras where they tested for less the further back in time we go......

[Hey Yo]

"There's no evidence guys..."

Meanwhile:

- His friend/business manager and his former trainer were caught purchasing PED's claiming it was for personal use
- That weird time he looked like a stick figure to start the season, took a 2 week break, then magically looked like his old self
- The fact that he is the only player in history to hold onto his explosiveness at age 40.
- That weird time he went down with cramps in the finals.

With the cramps I could take it or leave it but it was still weird. If you wanna exclude that one fine, it still leaves the other three.

And for those saying it doesn't mean anything if he was on something, sorry but this is a guy who dominated largely because of his physical advantages. He was extremely talented sure but what made him uniquely special was his combination of size, strength and speed.

It would be a real shame to have to discount Bron's greatness. As much as I hate him, I have to admit he was a joy to watch as a fan of the game. He was the ONLY player I saw who I thought had the potential to be better than Jordan. But if it comes out that he was on something, I'm sorry it does bring his greatness into question in my opinion.

Before and after pics?

[Hey Yo]

What? Most athletes take PEDs to recover faster and keep them on the playing field so they can perform every time. LeBron is the all time leading scorer because he played the most games ever. I wonder how he was able to sustain playing that many games for that long. Remarkable.

Stockton's played like 60 less games than James but is over 20,000pts behind him. How come Stockton isn't right there with Malone and Kareem in points if all it takes is playing a lot of games?

[GOBB]

I'm thinking you're right, ive always felt it was an inferiority complex and obviously here its just a proxy for some other battle/hate/standom. I dont know if its ok to let guys take stuff but I do know the most i ever enjoyed baseball was when Barry Bonds was annihilating everything that moved. I was entertained so i really cant hate on it. And im of the train of thought that if we beleive this guy took it why is everyone else who has elite athletic ability or body builder muscles excluded from suspicion? Especially in older eras where they tested for less the further back in time we go......

A guy like Karl Malone never gets questioned. Outside of his last year with Lakers where he was 40yrs old. He played 18 seasons where he only missed 10gms total. 1,344 out of 1,444. Karl Malone has been called everything outside of a cheater who used PEDs lol

[GOBB]

Stockton's played like 60 less games than James but is over 20,000pts behind him. How come Stockton isn't right there with Malone and Kareem in points if all it takes is playing a lot of games?

Horrible comparison. Stockton is not nor ever has been considered a great scorer. You were probably better off using his total assists instead.

The point remains if you’re capable of being an all time leading scorer? The one thing you need on your side is to be available to play in games to do that. If you’re taking something that allows you to remain on the court more than your peers? Then you are able to accumulate stats. The greater you are the better your stats can be. The argument isn’t PEDs made LeBron James great. It’s PEDs (if he even took them) allowed LeBron to play as many games and for as long as he has to achieve such feats. Follow?

[Hey Yo]

You specifically said the only reason why LeBron is the all time leading scorer is because he's played the most games.... which is a fvckin dumb thing to claim.

Robert Parish played in 1,611 games (50 more than LeBron) but scored 19,000pts less. Why isn't he the all time leading scorer?

[GOBB]

You specifically said the only reason why LeBron is the all time leading scorer is because he's played the most games.... which is a fvckin dumb thing to claim.

Robert Parish played in 1,611 games (50 more than LeBron) but scored 19,000pts less. Why isn't he the all time leading scorer?

I swear you kids here are remedial. But that’s the world we live in. Where someone can’t comprehend what being said becuase they are too busy looking to argue. That even when explained to them their error still double down. You’re a d*ckhead.