BREAKING: Grizzlies Trade Bane to Magic

[Real Men Wear Green]

Ehh I don't really see how Booker makes sense for Orlando since you talk about potential cap problems in your post. At least with Banchero-Wagner-Bane it's only like a combined 120 million of the cap in 2027 for those 3. They can afford to keep their best players and avoid the 2nd apron. Suggs' yearly salary goes down after 2027 so this makes sense for them.

You need me to point out that Booker is a higher level of player than Bane?

[GOBB]

Gilbert arenas on his podcast said he can confirm Orlando offered the firsts with no protection. Memphis didn’t ask. I don’t know if it’s true or not. But let’s say that is the case? Now that I think is terrible.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Gilbert arenas on his podcast said he can confirm Orlando offered the firsts with no protection. Memphis didn’t ask. I don’t know if it’s true or not. But let’s say that is the case? Now that I think is terrible.

Someone in their front office must think he was being held back in Memphis. To me that looks awful but these kinds of deals just need one strong opinion to happen if they have the authority.

[theman93]

Gilbert arenas on his podcast said he can confirm Orlando offered the firsts with no protection. Memphis didn’t ask. I don’t know if it’s true or not. But let’s say that is the case? Now that I think is terrible.

I’d take anything he says about Orlando with a massive grain of salt lol he slams us any chance he gets…. ie not taking Bates #6 overall in 2023

[Real Men Wear Green]

He may have made up Memphis not requestor the picks be unprotected but if the picks aren't protected it makes the trade worse regardless.

[GOBB]

I’d take anything he says about Orlando with a massive grain of salt lol he slams us any chance he gets…. ie not taking Bates #6 overall in 2023

He definately hates Orlando. Lol

[theman93]

Bane isn't as valuable as prime Jrue Holiday. He may well be more valuable than Lavine when healthy but his borderline status combined with his rough injury history mean he's not worth 5 picks.

You act like having other players mean the picks are of no value. Makes no sense.

You feeling impatient doesn't make this a good move.

Even if you want to categorize Jrue as better it’s not much of a distinguishable gap by any metric they just have different specialties. Regardless, he’s an all-star caliber player in the East. The injury thing is also kind of overblown. Since he became a starter he’s played nearly 75% of games and been available every playoff series.

And I’m not acting like the picks don’t have value at all. I’m saying we can take the blow of losing those picks because we still have multiple first round picks in the future, existing young prospects developing, while also adding one of the game’s elite shooters on top of it. It’s not like we’ve completely mortgaged the future lol.

[warriorfan]

East is pretty open for the taking right now and Orlando needed shooting. Bane is a great fit for their squad. The outgoing KCP contract wasn’t great. It’s a slight overpay but they didn’t break the bank.

Anyone framing this as a terrible move doesn’t know basketball.

[Meticode]

East is pretty open for the taking right now.

This is 100% correct. With the Celtics missing Tatum the whole year probably and they're going to let one or two players walk they're not going to be the same. The Cavs underachieved for the second straight year and haven't made any progress since Mitchell joined the team. They perform great in the regular season, but once the playoffs start and the physicality increases they crumble. Orlando will probably be better. They had a positive season even though they were missing Banchero for half the season. They got hit with the injury bug more than any team in the league and still managed to make the playoffs. Hopefully they can stay healthy including Bane who has been injury prone in his career.

So far the only teams that have been consistent on a high level performing or doing better the last two seasons is the Knicks and Pacers. Wide open.

In the West? We're pretty much banking on the Thunder probably being the top dog again. Nuggets will be up there again. Maybe the Wolves. Durant going to the Rockets might turn the tide because they severely missed scoring in the playoffs. Spurs might be dangerous if Durant goes there and Wemby stays healthy... Wemby, Durant and Fox on the same team?

[John8204]

Something for people to keep in mind

Banchero (22)
F. Wagner (23)
Suggs (23)
Bane (26)
M. Wagner (28)

Why would you look at the draft when you have such a young team, if you draft a star you won't be able to pay to keep them or you'd have to dump one of the four guys you are already paying.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Even if you want to categorize Jrue as better it’s not much of a distinguishable gap by any metric they just have different specialties. Regardless, he’s an all-star caliber player in the East. The injury thing is also kind of overblown. Since he became a starter he’s played nearly 75% of games and been available every playoff series.

And I’m not acting like the picks don’t have value at all. I’m saying we can take the blow of losing those picks because we still have multiple first round picks in the future, existing young prospects developing, while also adding one of the game’s elite shooters on top of it. It’s not like we’ve completely mortgaged the future lol.

At his peak Jrue Holiday was in the argument for top perimeter defender in the league while putting up a similar level of offensive production. I don't know much about Bane as a defender but I've never heard anyone speak of him like that.

Having a few picks left over does not change the fact that the picks are valuable either.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Something for people to keep in mind

Banchero (22)
F. Wagner (23)
Suggs (23)
Bane (26)
M. Wagner (28)

Why would you look at the draft when you have such a young team, if you draft a star you won't be able to pay to keep them or you'd have to dump one of the four guys you are already paying.

If you're worried about that then you shouldn't be trading for Bane's 200 mil to begin with. And it's a bit nuts to say that a .500 team has all the talent it needs after acquiring one good player.

[NBAGOAT]

If you're worried about that then you shouldn't be trading for Bane's 200 mil to begin with. And it's a bit nuts to say that a .500 team has all the talent it needs after acquiring one good player.

paolo and suggs were injured last year. they're not a title team but they're a favorite for a top 4 seed for sure and talent wise they're on the lvl of any east team. An upgrade at center(watch for porzingis) and they're a finals team. Its for sure an overpay but bane is better than bridges fills their holes and doesnt hurt their defense like someone like simons or monk wouldve and has all star potential. You have paolo, franz and suggs entering their primes, its time to go for it

[NBAGOAT]

Ehh I don't really see how Booker makes sense for Orlando since you talk about potential cap problems in your post. At least with Banchero-Wagner-Bane it's only like a combined 120 million of the cap in 2027 for those 3. They can afford to keep their best players and avoid the 2nd apron. Suggs' yearly salary goes down after 2027 so this makes sense for them.

The East is wide open right now. This type of a move is what you'd expect from a franchise like the Magic who have never been a destination for stars. A couple role players wasn't going to cut it. Bane's contract as a 3rd guy isn't that bad given the cap raise in the coming years.

booker is irrelevant since hes not available. The best guard available this offseason is likely immanuel quickley who wouldve been good but hes worse than bane. bane has a significantly higher chance of being an all star

It's not what I want but the combination of missed games, salary, and in Holiday's case, age, make me think that Stevens is going to move Porzingis and Holiday. This is all of course forced by the second apron and further forced by Tatum's injury. I can't blame the new ownership at all for not wanting to pay half a billion for 45 to 50 wins. With Tatum out for a year unless some team is willing to give up a replacement star for Tatum (not likely) a miniature rebuild is in order. Give JB a 50 game season to keep him healthy and see if they can get a lottery pick. Then after a year under the bleeping apron with a lottery pick and some more picks from moving Porzingis and Holiday pray Tatum comes back strong and see what they can do.

last year you said why would i worry about the 2nd apron when im not the one paying it. The owners wont break up a title core. You were half right wyc snap sold the team after the title so he wouldnt get the blame. Lot of guys warned you about brown and hausers deal and you dismissed it. one underrated factor about the bane deal is like imkobe said they have their core while avoiding the 2nd apron. You blow that out the window with a true star max guy. Paolo and franz are orlandos cornerstones, they dont need a true star for their 3rd guy.

[Real Men Wear Green]

paolo and suggs were injured last year. they're not a title team but they're a favorite for a top 4 seed for sure and talent wise they're on the lvl of any east team. An upgrade at center(watch for porzingis) and they're a finals team. Its for sure an overpay but bane is better than bridges fills their holes and doesnt hurt their defense like someone like simons or monk wouldve and has all star potential. You have paolo, franz and suggs entering their primes, its time to go for it

And they may make the second round. Not worth 5 first round picks.