Anthony Davis is said to be on the block now.

[Kblaze8855]

Funny thing is Kidd was way more of a malcontent and criminal than either of them. Especially Russ who I believe is a model citizen and generally loved by teammates.

If Ja organized a mutiny against his college coach, broke up his first nba teams future by being in a love triangle with a celebrity, destroyed his second by beating his wife multiple times and getting DUIs which got him traded to a third team he funded with 2 coaches of, directly got one fired, then sandbagged and refused to play to get traded to his fourth team?

He might actually deserve his rep.

Jason Kidd was one of the biggest coach killing team cancers in history it just doesn’t feeeeeel like it because he was so great on the floor.

Ja and Russ don’t have any mugshots unless I forgot something. And maybe I did I guess. But his record is waaaaaaay worse with teammates, coaches, laws, and family.

Which is one reason I don’t think he’d balk as much as some and think he could be a mentor to a guy like that.

[FultzNationRISE]

Those two thoughts are incompatible. More of your putting more weight on what you think should be the case instead of what usually is.

Well in any event. Denver's not giving up quality assets to experiment with Davis and Jokic midseason. That I am sure of. Denver took the champs to Game 7 last year and have a better roster this year. It's not a risk they have any reason to take.

If Cleveland feels they were too soft up front in the playoffs last year when they got smoked by Indy, and decides they really need a shakeup to get over the hump, maybe you offer Jarrett Allen for Davis. With an extra guy to make the deals match. But the aprons complicate these trades.

If injuries werent a factor I could see the Wolves offering a Toody swap. But Rudy actually plays for the most part, even if he doesnt play particularly well. You cant improve the team by adding a guy in street clothes.

Outside of that? I honestly dont see any teams that look like logical destinations.

[Im Still Ballin]

The play here is tank 2025-26, league gifts Dallas 1st pick again, draft Dybantsa or Petersen, then you've got your Tatum & Brown. Your Chet & J-Will.

They just have to figure out what to do with AD & Kyrie...

Do you sell them ASAP for whatever you can get? Or do you sit them out for 2025-26, get Dybantsa/Petersen, then reload for 2026-27?

[Xiao Yao You]

Funny thing is Kidd was way more of a malcontent and criminal than either of them. Especially Russ who I believe is a model citizen and generally loved by teammates.

If Ja organized a mutiny against his college coach, broke up his first nba teams future by being in a love triangle with a celebrity, destroyed his second by beating his wife multiple times and getting DUIs which got him traded to a third team he funded with 2 coaches of, directly got one fired, then sandbagged and refused to play to get traded to his fourth team?

He might actually deserve his rep.

Jason Kidd was one of the biggest coach killing team cancers in history it just doesn’t feeeeeel like it because he was so great on the floor.

Ja and Russ don’t have any mugshots unless I forgot something. And maybe I did I guess. But his record is waaaaaaay worse with teammates, coaches, laws, and family.

Which is one reason I don’t think he’d balk as much as some and think he could be a mentor to a guy like that.

So great as long as dont care about efficiency

[Kblaze8855]

The ****ed up thing is when Kobe could've had prime Chris Paul changing everything the league cockblocked him but they let Lebron have Luka. And trade prime AD for Ingram. Crazy stuff.

These dudes really parlayed Brandon Ingram and Lonzo Ball into AD and Luka.

If the Mavs had 29 owners at the time while they looked for a replacement for Cuban like happened with the Hornets rest assured Silver gets a Gilbert letter too

[Xiao Yao You]

Well in any event. Denver's not giving up quality assets to experiment with Davis and Jokic midseason. That I am sure of. Denver took the champs to Game 7 last year and have a better roster this year. It's not a risk they have any reason to take.

If Cleveland feels they were too soft up front in the playoffs last year when they got smoked by Indy, and decides they really need a shakeup to get over the hump, maybe you offer Jarrett Allen for Davis. With an extra guy to make the deals match. But the aprons complicate these trades.

If injuries werent a factor I could see the Wolves offering a Toody swap. But Rudy actually plays for the most part, even if he doesnt play particularly well. You cant improve the team by adding a guy in street clothes.

Outside of that? I honestly dont see any teams that look like logical destinations.

Not particulatly well on his way to taking down the favorites and defending champs and 2 straight conference finals. No wonder no one pays for your insights

[Kblaze8855]

So great as long as dont care about efficiency

Marbury was more efficient on the Nets than Kidd who had 48 true shooting his first year there. Safe to say it didn’t make him more effective.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Funny thing is Kidd was way more of a malcontent and criminal than either of them. Especially Russ who I believe is a model citizen and generally loved by teammates.

If Ja organized a mutiny against his college coach, broke up his first nba teams future by being in a love triangle with a celebrity, destroyed his second by beating his wife multiple times and getting DUIs which got him traded to a third team he funded with 2 coaches of, directly got one fired, then sandbagged and refused to play to get traded to his fourth team?

He might actually deserve his rep.

Jason Kidd was one of the biggest coach killing team cancers in history it just doesn’t feeeeeel like it because he was so great on the floor.

Ja and Russ don’t have any mugshots unless I forgot something. And maybe I did I guess. But his record is waaaaaaay worse with teammates, coaches, laws, and family.

Which is one reason I don’t think he’d balk as much as some and think he could be a mentor to a guy like that.

I will admit to having forgotten Kidd's semi-criminal record as a player. So there is reason to think Kidd would give him a shot. A different concern with Morant though is that he's not going to be able to play that high-flyer style much longer. He takes some bad falls and has such a slight build, he has to learn to play on the ground at a high level but unfortunately it's that explosiveness that makes him special. Could he learn to run a team and lead like Kidd? I don't think we've seen that from him, he's always been in the mold of young Rose. Kidd was fast but he was pass-first, second and third whereas a great game from Morant involves a lot of scoring.

[Xiao Yao You]

Marbury was more efficient on the Nets than Kidd who had 48 true shooting his first year there. Safe to say it didn’t make him more effective.

Marbury had a much different roster despite the narrative saying it was the same team

[FultzNationRISE]

The play here is tank 2025-26, league gifts Dallas 1st pick again, draft Dybantsa or Petersen, then you've got your Tatum & Brown. Your Chet & J-Will.

They just have to figure out what to do with AD & Kyrie...

Do you sell them ASAP for whatever you can get? Or do you sit them out for 2025-26, get Dybantsa/Petersen, then reload for 2026-27?

Unless they get an unexpectedly good offer for Irving before he returns, I think you keep him and let him play with Flagg for a bit. It will be an exciting pairing, it will be helpful in Cooper's development, and it will rebuild Irving's trade value after the injury.

AD you can move now or later, whenever you feel the market is the best it's going to be I guess.

[Kblaze8855]

Well in any event. Denver's not giving up quality assets to experiment with Davis and Jokic midseason. That I am sure of. Denver took the champs to Game 7 last year and have a better roster this year. It's not a risk they have any reason to take.

If Cleveland feels they were too soft up front in the playoffs last year when they got smoked by Indy, and decides they really need a shakeup to get over the hump, maybe you offer Jarrett Allen for Davis. With an extra guy to make the deals match. But the aprons complicate these trades.

If injuries werent a factor I could see the Wolves offering a Toody swap. But Rudy actually plays for the most part, even if he doesnt play particularly well. You cant improve the team by adding a guy in street clothes.

Outside of that? I honestly dont see any teams that look like logical destinations.

If they shoot for another big I’d imagine it would be a young one on a team that’s anti tank. Like Miami. You ask for this kid





Him plus Herro and one of their nobodies gets you about 44 of 54 million. You figure out the rest with third teams or whatever you gotta do.

Heat score 125 a game this year without Herro playing a second yet. He expires next year so Dallas has no long term issues.

Heat basically add a superstar when healthy with Bam there so they don’t actually NEED him to be healthy…and give up a really good project and someone who does nothing but score on a team scoring it’s ass off focusing on ball movement and effort.

Who loses?

A lot of teams could do something like that but Miami is in the unusual position of not needing him to do anything to be decent. They could play him 20 minutes game and no back to backs like Embiid and probably get home court.

Sing where becoming all-star in three years with flag would be annoying, but the heat are a team that’s always about right now. Riley is too old to give a shit about 2032.

[tpols]

Funny thing is Kidd was way more of a malcontent and criminal than either of them. Especially Russ who I believe is a model citizen and generally loved by teammates.

If Ja organized a mutiny against his college coach, broke up his first nba teams future by being in a love triangle with a celebrity, destroyed his second by beating his wife multiple times and getting DUIs which got him traded to a third team he funded with 2 coaches of, directly got one fired, then sandbagged and refused to play to get traded to his fourth team?

He might actually deserve his rep.

Jason Kidd was one of the biggest coach killing team cancers in history it just doesn’t feeeeeel like it because he was so great on the floor.

Ja and Russ don’t have any mugshots unless I forgot something. And maybe I did I guess. But his record is waaaaaaay worse with teammates, coaches, laws, and family.

Which is one reason I don’t think he’d balk as much as some and think he could be a mentor to a guy like that.

Yea but this is basketball. Kidd was anything but malignant on the court.

[FultzNationRISE]

If they shoot for another big I’d imagine it would be a young one on a team that’s anti tank. Like Miami. You ask for this kid





Him plus Herro and one of their nobodies gets you about 44 of 54 million. You figure out the rest with third teams or whatever you gotta do.

Heat score 125 a game this year without Herro playing a second yet. He expires next year so Dallas has no long term issues.

Heat basically add a superstar when healthy with Bam there so they don’t actually NEED him to be healthy…and give up a really good project and someone who does nothing but score on a team scoring it’s ass off focusing on ball movement and effort.

Who loses?

Yeah but I just dont know how keen teams are to try these 2 Center (which Davis is) experiments midseason.

Not saying they cant work but I think theyre ideal with a full season's runway. And AD aint gettin any younger. If youre gonna trade for him it's probably to contend this year, not to wait til his body's another year older.

I just dont know that Miami is incentivized to give up Ware for Davis. Theres too many unknowns. Pairing Bam and AD midseason AND hoping Davis stays healthy is not a slam dunk by any means IMO. Unless Riles knows has plans to retire in the next two years and wants to take one last wild swing beforehand. But I think it's got a dubious chance of success.

[Xiao Yao You]

Yeah but I just dont know how keen teams are to try these 2 Center (which Davis is) experiments midseason.

Not saying they cant work but I think theyre ideal with a full season's runway. And AD aint gettin any younger. If youre gonna trade for him it's probably to contend this year, not to wait til his body's another year older.

I just dont know that Miami is incentivized to give up Ware for Davis. Theres too many unknowns. Pairing Bam and AD midseason AND hoping Davis stays healthy is not a slam dunk by any means IMO. Unless Riles knows has plans to retire in the next two years and wants to take one last wild swing beforehand. But I think it's got a dubious chance of success.

The center who insists he is a 4. Thats another issue.

[FultzNationRISE]

Honestly, the Mavs need to just do the responsible thing and buy Davis out, so that he may sign with the Lakers.


Lebron does NOT need the help, but it would be noble to allow Davis to return to his Father Figure and the place he calls home.