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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23 View Post
    Put up better stats than 1996-1998 Michael Jordan in the NBA finals but he lost to a much better team than the teams Jordan face in the finals

    The 2016 Cavs were the only team in the league with 3 franchise players, while every other team only had 1, so the Cavs were given preseason favorite status and expected to win the title.

    Unfortunately, the Cavs fell to underdog by the time the Finals arrived due to a vastly underachieving regular season of 57 wins, despite having a "dream team" roster that historically gets 65+ wins, if we use the 86' Celtics or 87' Lakers as comparisons.. Or if you think that's unfair, then the 07' Mavs or 09' Lakers, who clearly had much less talent... The professional statisticians (above) back this idea that the 15' and 16' Cavs were among the most stacked rosters of all-time.

    In the Finals, Lebron averaged 24 and 6 TO's to get a 1-3 deficit despite having 2 extra franchise players compared to Curry, the preseason favorite, and the unprecedented help of a sidekick outplaying the current MVP.

    Ultimately, this was a lucky title that the Cavs weren't supposed to win if Silver doesn't interfere and Bogut/Iggy don't get hurt late in the series.. The Warriors had JUST ENOUGH gas in the tank to win 73 and the title, so the Draymond suspension cut off a well-running engine - there's no way to get it back and running in time.





    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23 View Post
    Put up better stats than 1996-1998 Michael Jordan in the NBA finals but he lost to a much better team than the teams Jordan face in the finals

    Jordan was already unbeatable with just 1 star teammate, so he wouldn't lose to any team with 2 star teammates..

    Let the historical record do the talking:

    Jordan's only losses were with bad teams to great teams, while Lebron's losses were with great teams to bad teams... Specifically, Jordan's only losses were with rookie teams and low seeds to 1 or 2-seeded opponents, while Lebron lost with super-teams (11') or 1-seeded organic juggernauts (10') to 3 and 4 seeded opponents.
    Last edited by 3ba11; 01-02-2025 at 03:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    Hard disagree here, there's a clear difference in performance for guys like Shaq & Hakeem during their peak years as opposed to other prime years. 2000 Shaq was simply a different animal than the 90's version.

    And sure, LeBron being great for so long, in addition to all of his accomplishments, give him a valid argument for GOAT.
    The most choke jobs of all time, to include the WORST choke job of all time in 2011, destroy any reasonable case for GOAT. Not even close.

    GOATs don't get outplayed by Jason Terry.
    Last edited by Full Court; 01-02-2025 at 04:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full Court View Post
    The most choke jobs of all time
    The thread's about LeBron, not Wilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    The thread's about LeBron, not Wilt.
    Nice try.

    Oh, just curious. Did Wilt ever get outplayed by Jason Terry in a finals series?

    There's a reason Jordan's still consensus GOAT despite the recency bias and media hype. Sucks to be a Bronie fluffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full Court View Post
    Nice try.

    Oh, just curious. Did Wilt ever get outplayed by Jason Terry in a finals series?

    There's a reason Jordan's still consensus GOAT despite the recency bias and media hype. Sucks to be a Bronie fluffer.
    Wilt was out scored by Don Nelson in a Finals

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    Wilt was out scored by Don Nelson in a Finals



    Kobe was outscored by Austin Croshere in a Finals

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    Wilt was out scored by Don Nelson in a Finals
    Don Nelson? The Hall of Famer?? You don't say!!!!


    The desperate measures you Bronies take to try to salvage his legacy is truly comical.

    Check this out, homie:

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    Wilt was out scored by Don Nelson in a Finals
    Don't forget the immortal Larry Seigfried & Johnny Egan.

    What's funny is Wilt's career Finals ppg average was nearly identical to what LeBron averaged in 2011

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full Court View Post
    Don Nelson? The Hall of Famer?? You don't say!!!!


    The desperate measures you Bronies take to try to salvage his legacy is truly comical.

    Check this out, homie:
    Don Nelson is in the HOF as a coach. This is like saying the Knicks were stacked in the 70s because they had Phil Jackson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full Court View Post
    Don Nelson? The Hall of Famer?? You don't say!!!!
    Oof lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    Don Nelson is in the HOF as a coach. This is like saying the Knicks were stacked in the 70s because they had Phil Jackson.
    Incidentally, nobody is out there claiming Wilt is the GOAT. Funny thing is though, he actually has a better case for it that LeShrivel does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full Court View Post
    Incidentally, nobody is out there claiming Wilt is the GOAT. Funny thing is though, he actually has a better case for it that LeShrivel does.
    Wilt is one of those players that change the game. Lebron simply benefits from it and yet him and cronies still have the gall to shit on players of the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawkFactory View Post
    Oof lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    The thread's about LeBron, not Wilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    I KNEW that talking about Lebron getting sonned by Jason Terry would send this autistic idiot into a bitch fit.


    I must be psychic.


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